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Old 02-21-2005, 08:53 PM   #41
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Default Re: Mcafee VS. Norton VS. ZoneAlarm

You can do whatever you want. AVG is a joke.. it is a crappy piece of software. I can speak from my own experience. It sucks and so does Avast. They are some of the worst viruses scanners in the world. You aren't changing my opoinion. Norton is the best virus scanner in the world. You can dispute that all you want, and quite frankly I'm sick and tired of your attitude.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:59 PM   #42
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what attitude? I'm not giving you attitude! (though I can if you want)

having a sane and sensible argument...
not resorted to flaming or swearing...

Giancarlo has found someone that won't roll over and agree with him and all of a sudden the cuss words comeout...

Norton is a resource hog, it's heuristic scaning abilities leave a lot to be desired.

don't believe me, a well formed google search will probably trawl up a few thousand post that agree with me, and a few thousand that don't...

somewhere in all of the opinon you may find some facts...

one thing is for sure you will allways find people are passionate aboutthe AV they use, simply because in their mind it has to be the best, they don't want to believe they have left their system open to invaison.
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:01 PM   #43
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Sheesh what is with these long posts to short and simple points I make. You do not have a sensible argument, you are just flaming me. You do not like me. Don't even think about mocking me. AVG is the resource hog. Norton is not. It is a solid, compact piece of software (esp the corporate edition which I use). Facts in your opinion? Nope. None that I see. AVG is a joke and I will never use it again. It isn't the best. People who love AVG need to gain some common sense and see the light. AVG leaves their system open for viruses.
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where are the credible links to ack up that opinion?

I have four anti virus related processes running...
and this is how they fare for memory usage...

AVGAMSVR - 1955k
avgcc - 4976k
avgemc - 1420k
avgupsvc - 72k

total - 8423Kb ~8.2MB

that gets me heuristic scanning, email filter (built into outlook) the control centre is running).
and it detected an activeX controll was dodgy that was downloaded from a site when I googled pyramid scheme to find out what the law is in order to post in that thread in the general discussion section. -it immeditly deleted the activeX control...

what are your resources like for all norton related processes?

(this is not to change your mind this is to leave facts for other peple to make decision about

as for flaming you. ponit out where? I've sid nothing untoward in thei thread. I had enough of that last night.

the long posts, -I ake long posts in order to try and fully explain my points, with relevant examples / experiances. in the hope that they will not be misenterperated. -is there anything wrong with that?
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Why don't you ever provide evidence for anything you are saying? You ask me to provide links, but when it comes to you.. you won't even dream of providing any links. AVG is the biggest pile of junk I have ever dealt with. Avast was worse. But that's beside the point. You are not processing the facts. My posts are better let alone more credible. You come after me all the time when I make a statement. What gives? Do you have a personal problem with me?
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:35 PM   #46
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I have no personal problems with you.
I just happen to disagree with you a lot...

Is the reason the you always disagree / contradict me a personal problem/vendetta?


back on the subject of AV...
I've done a little search research.
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against AVG spyware related
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...ight=%2Aavg%2A
against - with tool bars from porn sites
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...ight=%2Aavg%2A
Spyware - old version of AV
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...ight=%2Aavg%2A

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norton and AVG failed to find virus
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...ight=%2Aavg%2A

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norton fails to find malicious files or stop hackers.
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

User has lost confidence in norton due to past experiances
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

Norton fails to stop hackers
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

Norton is a resource hog, since this is asking for help could we assume the log isn't faked?
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

Norton stops working for no good reason
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

Norton allows spyware through (so much for heuristic scanning)
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

Norton lets two virii slip through undetected.
http://www.computerforums.org/showth...t=%2Anorton%2A

And thats where I got bored of trawling through threads returned by the search function.

Now I've providedlinks from many different people on these forums... is it believable or are you going to call a whole forum userbase a bunch of liars?
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perhaps I should explain a little better, I have no problem, personal or otherwise against you. I admire that you stick up for your beliefs, in this instance I feel that you happen to be wrong.
Thats just my opinion though,
I'm trynig to form reasonable argument. have you actually tried to find links, the only kind of comparisson I can find of AVs is on affiliated shop sites.
For instance I could post http://www.secureie.com/c/002/mcafee...SNorton_03.asp as evidence that mcaffe is beter than norton, though it's obviously biased as it comes from a mcaffe partner site.
it seems to be nigh on impossible to actually fins good links...
my last pos was the best I cold do to explain user experiances with each vendor.
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You are taking a forum as a credible source of information for your shoddy opinions? These are just personal users you are quoting. You haven't provided actual evidence, just personal experience based on one person. That doesn't qualify as evidence. You know what your problem is? You cannot admit where you are just plain wrong.

You should actually provide evidence to back yourself up and as far as I'm concerned this is a personal vendetta you have against me. A reasonable argument? By using posts from a forum? I'm not degrading anyone on this forum, but that's not credible evidence. I am right, you are the wrong one. AVG sucks.

Take my advice people don't listen to the strawman attacks root always does and go with Norton. You won't regret it when Norton intercepts viruses that AVG would never find.

http://www.software-antivirus.com/pr...us-review.html

"About.com
http://antivirus.about.com/library/ reviews/winscan/aaprnav2002.htm
Editors rating: 4 out of 5"

"PCPlus, summer 2002
Editors rating: 9 out of 10 "

"PC Magazine
June 2002
Editors rating: 5 out of 5"

Quote from PC Mag: The most intuitive program in this roundup, Norton Anti-Virus 2003 (NAV) is also one of the most powerful, providing superb virus protection and removal. Every task, from on-demand scanning to scheduling automatic scans, is very straightforward. NAV monitors Microsoft Office, all e-mail traffic for major e-mail clients, and SMTP and POP3 mail. In testing, NAV caught and cleaned every WildList virus we threw at it. The program's update feature, Symantec's LiveUpdate, is aggressive and simple, so you can easily keep your program and virus definitions up to date-an essential task for complete protection.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,11958,00.asp

CNET
Editors rating: 8 out of 10

It seems the critics love Norton.
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I have to agree with GianCarlo hes been providing some good evidence as you have not
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You hasnt shown anymore then root did.......root showed examples of people having shitty experiences with Norton, you showed a couple reviews saying Norton is good. Give me one solid reason why Norton is sooo much better then Mcafee because you havent gave a good one yet. Ive heard lots of people through personal friends and through the net who've not liked Norton at all and ive given a few a nice burnt copy of Mcafee 2004 and 2005 and not one complaint. They both do the job though, to say one is a lot better then the other is like the ol athlon vs intel war or ati vs nvidia. Theres no clear cut winner in any of those 3 arguments yet people seem to think one is so much better then the other. Personally id be using Symantec as opposed to Norton anyways.
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