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Old 02-06-2006, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default Intel Xeon..?

What do you all think about these processors? I mean there great for servers. But, no one ever speaks of them here. So does that mean that there like horrible for gaming or anything of the sort? Just comparing these to say.. An athlon maybe.. how would it do? What are your guys view on these?
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:40 PM   #2
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What do you all think about these processors? I mean there great for servers. But, no one ever speaks of them here. So does that mean that there like horrible for gaming or anything of the sort? Just comparing these to say.. An athlon maybe.. how would it do? What are your guys view on these?

Well they are mostly just server processors. I know you probobly made this thread because it was mentioned two times in different threads in the help forum recently. Xeons are great server processors, extremely fast. I always with someone would builg an Xeon gaming computer and test it out for fun, but I haven't seen anything on them. They probobly have a small cache, but whatever... They rule the web hosting world, however!
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:45 PM   #3
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Nah, i made this thread, because i've always thought about making it. Just never got around to it, lmao. But yeah.

Anyways.. remindme again (cause i never knew lol) whats the catch do on a processor, and also the FSB
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:13 AM   #4
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FSB is how fast the cpu talks to the memory controller.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:19 AM   #5
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The Xeon processor isn't built like the Opteron is. The Xeon is stricly for servers, and nothing more. The Opteron is meant for servers, but peopel have found a way to make it a gaming CPU. The Xeon really isn't a gaming CPU. If you want multitasking, get a Xeon, if you want multitasking and gaming, get an Athelon 64 X2 or an Opteron. Servers mainly run Linux SuSe, and seeing as how games typically don't run on Linux, it's best to leave the Xeon in a strictly server platoform.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:22 AM   #6
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ahh, thats where you are wrong My cousin, a professor at a college in Utah, has a dual xeon (the college gave it to him) and its a workstation. Xeons are used in workstation and server platforms, not JUST servers.
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Well, they're main focus is servers, or workstations that don't run games. Basically what I'm saying is that Xeons = no gaming.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:59 AM   #8
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yes, gaming on a xeon is a no-no.
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:05 AM   #9
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I have a few Workstations at work with Xeons, very old.

You really don't need these CPU's. Most people buy them for showing off, if they don't use them is work type loads. For me, got them for free.

And Ownage is correct, these ware made for Worstations as well as servers.

These are made for stress workloads, because they remain running for 24/7 for a few years.
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Old 02-07-2006, 01:08 PM   #10
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Oh.. I see about the FSB. So.. Well.. Hmm.. I dont see how if they can run so fast, they cant be used for gaming. Even with low FSB, you could get like 4x1gb, and have alot of rame to compensate for the low levels of the FSB right?
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Ok, you're not geting it. A Xeon processor processes the data differently. A Xeon is made to processes a lot of data coming in from a lot of sources, or maybe a few sources. It is also made to stay on, or stay computing for extremly long periods of time. An Athelon 64 CPU is meant to process small applications and only process data from a limited amount of sources. The Xeon is a server CPU, or a workstation. It's a CPU who's purpose is to simply gather data, sort data, and send data. It's nothing special. The Athelon 64 or Pentium is a processor that is meant to handle large applications, such as games, or small applications, such as MS Word, Powerpoint, the internet.

The Xeon IS NOT a gaming CPU, you can have two of them coupled with 1 gig of RAM, and I guarntee an Athelon 64 CPU will out perform the dual-Xeons in any game.
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Old 02-07-2006, 08:55 PM   #12
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Default Re: Intel Xeon..?

Oh wow.. I had no idea. Thanks. But.. Hmm.. What is the best intel for gaming. I mean there is the pent 4, 630. Thats the one i have prescott (3.0ghz). So probably a pent is the best for gaming outta all the intels. Maybe a 3.6 northwood though? Anything like that?
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WHen it comes to Intel processors, the best is anythign in the Pentium lineup. If what you're asking is what is the best Intel processor for gaming, no questions asked it's the Pentium D Extreme Edition 955 processor. BUt if you want something on a more realistic scale, a Pentium 4 with EM64T technology will do you good.
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Old 02-08-2006, 12:27 AM   #14
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EM64T?

Hmm.. Does my 630 have that lol?
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Default Re: Intel Xeon..?

Extended Memory 64 Technology is basically x86-64. Basically 64-bit processing. Yes, the Pentium 4 6xx series is 64-bit.
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Yes, the Pentium 4 Prescott 630 supports the EM64T technology.
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I always thought that was HT, that made it 64bit. You know, the logical, and physical processing units.
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nope. 64-bit is a set of instructions, not hardware. HT made windows see the processor and two processors.
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Yes, the locical processing unit is the Hyper-Threading technology. The Physical processing part if the CPU itself, which happens to contain the 64-bit architecture. Hyper-Threading is just a way to process more data in a different way. To my knowledge it essentially makes the CPU think that is has another CPU, which is why on dual-core CPUs that have hyper-threading/trasport technology, you end up with 4 boxes all showing CPU usage. Because each core uses HT technology, making it think it has another CPU on it, thus giving it four CPUs, or processing units. It's all confussing at first, but after you read up on EM64T and Hyper-Threading/Transport technology it soon becomes clear!
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:07 PM   #20
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Well, I kind of get it, because of just owning it, and always watching it, and knowing what its doing. And it doesnt display the same processes. I mean, kinda the same, but the ''logical'' cpu, takes care of the background processes.
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