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Old 02-17-2010, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default I need a new video card

I'm worried about shooting too low and not getting a good enough GPU and also about going too high and getting one that never comes close to its potential.
What is really getting to me is costerformance ratio. For instance, after rebate I can get a HD 4550 for 20 dollars. I know it's not all to great but it's twenty bucks. Then theres the 4770 thats about a 100 dollars more but all the stats are much better. And idk if I want DX11 support or not. So I'm in a bit of a situation. Any good cost effective GPUs on the market. Say the limit is $120.
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:43 PM   #2
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HD 4670 is an epic budget GPU.

GTS 250 or HD 4850 for high end if you can find a deal (performance is identical)

I'd avoid the 4770. overpriced for what it is.

You won't get far on DX11 cards with that budget. You can get nearly double the performance by falling back to 10/10.1.

EDIT: good deal. I bought my 4850 x2 from them. http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-...0bf9edb513826c

EDIT 2: buy this and when you upgrade next, you drop it back as a physx card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ems-_-14261057

EDIT 3: HD 4670. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...XFX-_-14150450 not a bad deal... not the greatest on it either.

EDIT 4: If your resolution is less than 1680x1050' this is a better deal than the 1GB model. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ech-_-14102854

EDIT 5: Epic deal on a 9800 GT... This will be between the 4670 and the 4850/GTS. I recommend this over the 4670 because its such a good deal. Also can be used for physx. http://www.compuvest.com/Desc.jsp;js...57?iid=1156064

EDIT 6 (lol): http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...id=123620&fp=F This is a decent card but only has 256MB VRAM. If your resolution is low, it will work amazingly.
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Ya but I plan on having dual moniter on DVI at one point, so I like the 4670. I actually was looking it at just before you posted the edit. And I only have one PCIe port
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HD 4670 is an epic budget GPU.

GTS 250 or HD 4850 for high end if you can find a deal (performance is identical)

I'd avoid the 4770. overpriced for what it is.

You won't get far on DX11 cards with that budget. You can get nearly double the performance by falling back to 10/10.1.

EDIT: good deal. I bought my 4850 x2 from them. http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-...0bf9edb513826c

EDIT 2: buy this and when you upgrade next, you drop it back as a physx card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ems-_-14261057

EDIT 3: HD 4670. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...XFX-_-14150450 not a bad deal... not the greatest on it either.

EDIT 4: If your resolution is less than 1680x1050' this is a better deal than the 1GB model. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ech-_-14102854

EDIT 5: Epic deal on a 9800 GT... This will be between the 4670 and the 4850/GTS. I recommend this over the 4670 because its such a good deal. Also can be used for physx. http://www.compuvest.com/Desc.jsp;js...57?iid=1156064
I would strongly suggest stretching to the HD5770 if possible, especially if you game. I have a GTS250 and you can tell it's beginning to age. Also, you can not use an Nvidia card while ATI gpu drivers are present, I know, it's stupid. Therefore you can only use it as a PhysX card if another nvidia card is installed. PhysX is over rated anyhow, how many games do you play that actually use it? It's just an unneeded feature that Nvidia is pushing way too hard. The fact is, people just don't want it.
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I would strongly suggest stretching to the HD5770 if possible, especially if you game. I have a GTS250 and you can tell it's beginning to age. Also, you can not use an Nvidia card while ATI gpu drivers are present, I know, it's stupid. Therefore you can only use it as a PhysX card if another nvidia card is installed. PhysX is over rated anyhow, how many games do you play that actually use it? It's just an unneeded feature that Nvidia is pushing way too hard. The fact is, people just don't want it.
You can use it with ATI. There are numerous hacks to make it work, as well as one that isn't a hack at all, just a way to enable it.

5770 isn't a big leap over a GTS really. He doesn't seem to be too big into gaming.

Out of all those cards I posted, the 9800 seems to be the best deal.

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Ya but I plan on having dual moniter on DVI at one point, so I like the 4670. I actually was looking it at just before you posted the edit. And I only have one PCIe port
They all support multi monitors.

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And I only have one PCIe port
That will change eventually. It gives you a reason not to sell the card for 25% of what it truly should be worth after upgrading.
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the 4670 has 320 stream processors and the 9800 only has 128. How does that factor in.
I am a gamer. I'm limited to basic steam games. But my plan is to stop using gaming consoles if the games are available on PC. That's why I'm thinking about the 5770 really hard. Towards the end of the summer I'm gonna graduate to a full atx tower and motherboard. So I want to have crossfirex or sli. On the whole, I feel better about ATI.
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You can use it with ATI. There are numerous hacks to make it work, as well as one that isn't a hack at all, just a way to enable it.

5770 isn't a big leap over a GTS really. He doesn't seem to be too big into gaming.

Out of all those cards I posted, the 9800 seems to be the best deal.

Can't you tell I like video cards?



They all support multi monitors.



That will change eventually. It gives you a reason not to sell the card for 25% of what it truly should be worth after upgrading.
You need hacked drivers though, from what I've seen, I wouldn't want to put my trust in a guy making free drivers, that could stop at any time. I haven't looked into it too terribly much, but could you please PM me or post links about what you are referring to? I wanted to do a similar thing in the past.

I was going to upgrade to a 5770, I was under the impression it was? All of the benchmarks I saw showed a hefty increase.
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the 4670 has 320 stream processors and the 9800 only has 128. How does that factor in.
I am a gamer. I'm limited to basic steam games. But my plan is to stop using gaming consoles if the games are available on PC. That's why I'm thinking about the 5770 really hard. Towards the end of the summer I'm gonna graduate to a full atx tower and motherboard. So I want to have crossfirex or sli. On the whole, I feel better about ATI.
128 clusters of SP's. NV and ATI are different in their specs.

Why do you feel better about ATI? just curious?

BTW the 5770 is kinda overpriced. Get a 4850 and there is very little difference in performance.

BTW PhysX is pretty epic in the games that support it.

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You need hacked drivers though, from what I've seen, I wouldn't want to put my trust in a guy making free drivers, that could stop at any time. I haven't looked into it too terribly much, but could you please PM me or post links about what you are referring to? I wanted to do a similar thing in the past.

I was going to upgrade to a 5770, I was under the impression it was? All of the benchmarks I saw showed a hefty increase.
Its on OCN somewhere. I'll look for it in a minute.

It isn't HUGE. I mean, you get DX11 and such but the 5770 seems to be in between the 4870 and 4850. You'd get much better performance in SLI for sure.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...ysx-guide.html

It explains how to use standard drivers and make physX work with ATI. No modding.
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The fact that I have ATI chipsets and drivers and an AMD cpu makes me feel better about ATI. Pre AMD buy out I was all about NVidia cards. ATI was crap. But their drivers are only getting better, I don't see the point in NVidia 3d and physx crap and there's that gut feeling that you can never explain. I just like em better
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You know, AMD is more willing to work with NV than intel is. They don't have a grudge or anything.

Your chipset doesn't really matter to the gpu unless you went to crossfire or SLI. Then it would.
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