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Old 03-06-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default I Need Help Choosing a Computer, Please

Hello all and thanks for taking the time to read my post, all feedback is appreciated. I am quite clueless when it comes to computers to be honest. I want a "gaming" computer although i honestly won't use it to much for gaming; something than can run the SC2 and Diablo 3 at high settings (with a decent monitor). My main use will be for office, downloading and doing college homework; but i want something that will last a little while and can do some gaming. As of now i do not own a computer at all

Here are some that i have looked at so far, your assitance is greatly appreciated as i do desperately need help. Which one of this is the best computer? Which one has the best "bang for its buck?"

CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra 2041LQ
http://pc.clickyourproduct.com/Cyber...Radeon-HD-5570

IBuyPower Gamer Power 568q6
Newegg.com - iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 568Q6 Phenom II X6 1055T(2.8GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity ATI Radeon HD 5770 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

ASUS Essentio CG1330-05
Newegg.com - Recertified: ASUS Essentio CG1330-05 Phenom II X6 1035T(2.6GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity ATI Radeon HD 5750 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


Also, PLEASE feel free to suggest any alternative computers that you know of that are $800 and below; i would prefer the $700 range. There were many other computers that were close in prices with similar features, but honestly i'm quite clueless. I don't know the correlations between how much a cpu, video card, memory, etc... is usefull before one of them (say the cpu) is totally unneccessary because it's to fast (or slow) for the rest of the hardware. Thanks, i appreciate the assistance as this is a lot of money and i am totally ignorant. (Suggesting alternate computer builds are greatly welcomed).
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The first two show "Out of Stock" and the third one looks pretty good. Given the three choices (if the others were in stock) I would still go with option 3. Here, however, is a site where you can build one...

Gamer Ultra 7000 Elite

Upgrades I made:
CPU: AMD Phenom™II X6 1090T Six-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology

Motherboard: GigaByte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI (Middle option)

Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card

Total: $781
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This is very expensive coming in right under $18,000.



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I could not open you links you provided for new systems for some reason, but put together an alternate (?) system at Cyberpower (which has a good reputation):

Base $585
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Quad_Core_Configurator/


Upgrades:

Case – Coolermaster HAF 912 (optional if like style) +$7
Extra case fan upgrade – Max 120MM fans +$9
Video Card – ATI 5770 +$90
Hard drive – 1 TB drive +$17
Operating System – Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit +$104

TOTAL COST WITH BASIC UPGRADES $812


Other optional upgrades:

CPU
You might consider upgrading the CPU, although the one selected is quite serviceable for gaming. The review listed below shows its performance, Note that the review system used a top end graphics card so as not to constrain the results. You results might be lower for some games with a smaller card, but it such cases it will not be the CPU affecting that so not relevant here to the CPU decision. Also note the impact of screen resolution on FPS – what resolution will you be gaming at?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Phenom_II_X4_840/9.html

If you want faster performance, upgrade to the X4 964 for $50.

Video Card
The review below shows the performance of the card, again assuming no other components constrain it. Your CPU probably will constrain performance a little in some of the games – but this still gives you a good idea of the comparative performance of similar cars. A good site for general information about upgrading video cards is:

http://www.upgradevideocards.com/

In particular this page at the site provides information about gaming video cards and understanding the FPS scores:

http://www.upgradevideocards.com/gaming.html

Optical Drive
If you want to add the BluRay Player to the combo drive for $65 select that option

If that is too pricey, you could cut back the 5770 video card to the 5750 or lower.
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I really appreciate the advice and the assistance; I am going to build one with the websites and recommendations provided. I never knew about those sights. I will let yah know my final decision. Thanks again

P.S. Wow, i really like being able to choose the case; that alone is gonna take me a few. Any recommendations? I know that even though some look cooler than the others that they have their different features. I don't want to get a crappy case and then my computer overheats....

P.S.S. What is with those things at the top of certain cases, say for example: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/A..._Configurator/ that look like a built in radio or something? (i dun know much)

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Okay, so after doing a little bit of toying around, and based of the two suggestions this is what i came up with Shopping Cart
What yah think? I wasn't sure if i should add anything, once i got past the first page a lot of it was Greek to me, i really didn't understand what it was asking for some of the latter things (at least i'm honest, right?) Would any of you recommend changes? For example, do i need to add any more fans or upgrade anything? Is a different case or power supply recommended? When i look at the power supply information right below the price on the left side it recommend a 600watt, should i upgrade to that? I do not plan on gaming a whole lot, a few hours here and there; but it would be cool if i could do it while Itunes is running/downloading in the background and whatnot. Any other recommended builds would be appreciated. Also, i am not familiar with monitors; are the prices offered on their monitors a good deal, and if so which one is a good one? Your assistance in genuinely and greatly appreciated in this matter.

This case seems to have a 550w standard power supply, it's bottom mounted (i don't know if that makes a difference). http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/G...tra_7000_Elite Also, this might sound dumb, but do the cases come standard looking all "glowly" like? I know there is the option to add color but does the case come stuck with the colors it appears to on the first page?

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P.S. Wow, i really like being able to choose the case; that alone is gonna take me a few. Any recommendations? I know that even though some look cooler than the others that they have their different features. I don't want to get a crappy case and then my computer overheats....
The Gaming Case market isn't for cases that will overheat typically so go ahead and pick your favorite from those options...

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P.S.S. What is with those things at the top of certain cases, say for example: AMD Quad Core Configurator that look like a built in radio or something? (i dun know much)
Most of them are temperature and fan speed readouts/controls.

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Okay, so after doing a little bit of toying around, and based of the two suggestions this is what i came up with Shopping Cart
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Is a different case or power supply recommended? When i look at the power supply information right below the price on the left side it recommend a 600watt, should i upgrade to that?
650 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-650M

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I do not plan on gaming a whole lot, a few hours here and there; but it would be cool if i could do it while Itunes is running/downloading in the background and whatnot. Any other recommended builds would be appreciated. Also, i am not familiar with monitors; are the prices offered on their monitors a good deal,
If you want to run multiple applications then you want a little more RAM. Not sure on the price of Monitors or Quality really, not my area.
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Thanks for the continued advice. Why would you recommend that particular power supply if you don't mind me asking? The XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply is only +36 while that one is +53 (after mail in rebate at that) is the reason i am asking. I did the live chat option with one of their representatives and he said i could get away with the 600 watter for $26, but i figure why not spend $10 more for 100 more watts? I was also wondering what the ipod feature on the motherboard does?

Here is what i have so far:
Also, this link should work: (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1D359K)
-CPU: AMD Phenom™II X6 1090T Six-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [+160]
-HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
-MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
-MOTHERBOARD: GigaByte GA-870A-UD3 AMD 870/SB850 chipset support DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, GBLAN, Support 6-core CPU, CPU Auto Unlocker, USB3.0, SATA-III, ON/OFF Charge for IPod, RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1, & 3 PCI
-SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
-VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card -
-700 Watts - XtremeGear Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
I also added the neon lighting and MicroSoft Home Office and Student.

Still debating between a few cases. Which one yah think is cooler? (if ya don't mind)
CoolerMaster Elite 430 Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Side Panel Window
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage (Black Color)
Thermaltake V3 Black Mid-Tower Case

If only i could swipe the side panels heh. Do you think a computer would look cool with diffrent color wiring and fans?

I really appreciate the help, as you can see the input has formed my entire build.

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I am no expert on the cases listed, but the HAF is an inch and a half wider and 2 inches deeper, which actually increases the size quite a bit. However, after meeting basic requirements for the components you want and ventilation, case choice is a lot about styling and personal choice. The Elite 430 does have the blue neon in front, which you appear to like, and the partially clear side panel The lights come with the fans and you can change out the fans to get ones with or without the lights, and in several different colors. On the Cyberpower menu, right below the cases is the option to upgrade fans to add neon.

If you are not familiar with newegg.com - you should become. Its usually an easy matter to look up components, like the repsective cases, to compare more detailed specs. You can open two in different browser windows and compare them side by side.

I see you choose the more powerful CPU. That is fine, off course, although it will not improve game play, or probably any other application, over what the X4 965 provides. Moreover, you can get the X4 955 and easily overclock it to more than the standard 965 and save $70 over the 6 core CPU you selected. But if budget allows, go for the 6 cores.

However, you have selected the slower graphics card. Game performance, for larger screeens and higher game settings, can be improved significantly with a faster GPU. You would have a more balanced system, and better performance, by spending less on the CPU and more on the GPU. For instance, for $75 you can upgrade to the HD 6850. See the following review for a comparison of multiple cards, including the 5750 and 6850 (make sure you look at some of the other pages for other games - and the full review for the 6850 if it interests you:

Radeon HD 6850 & 6870 review

What is the resolution of your monitor?

Given the rest of the system, memory of 4 GB is a little light. But it should suffice for now and it is probably the easiest component to add later - and you don't have to replace and waste part of what you have already to do it.

On the power supply, I agree that paying $10 for a 100w more is a good buy. Unfortunately that model is not the best. I did not recommend upgrading it before because you seemed to be budget constrained and the good PSUs - the ones most enthusiasts would select - cost quite a bit more. For instance the Corsair 650w is a much beter PSU, which is why it cost $63 more than the 700w one you selected. Again I would rather see you forego the CPU upgrade over the X4 955 to get the Corsair 650w PSU.

See this thread:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7300

Note that 500w is more than adequate for most graphics cards unless you plan to Crossfire with 2 cards. Do you want to pay the premium to keep this option open? If so you need a different mobo, as the one selected has two x16 slots but the second only has the bandwidth of an X4 slot. Also note that unfortunately they do not offer the option for a good PSU at less than 600w, which is why I did not mention this before.

Have you considered building it yourself? You might save a little in cost but would gain even more in control over parts selection, such as with the PSU but also with other components such as memory and a wider selection for cases and mobos. It really is not that hard to build one. And afterwards, not only do you have a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction, but feel much more comfortable upgrading components or trouble shooting later.
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I had a whole post typed but i am editing it now because i made my purchase. I took your advice (Rockyjohn) and i am going to build it myself.

It has the Phenom 2 x6 1090T processor, PowerColor 6850 Video Card, Gigabyte GA-870D UD3 Mobo, 4GB DDR3 Corsair (1600MHZ) memory, Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W PSU, HAF 912 case (ordering clear side panel) and Windows 7 HP. 64 Bit. I will pickup the optical, keyboard, and mouse elsewhere.

Total price: 874.83 w/tax and shipping

Total Price after Mail in Rebates: $824.93 (plus i got a $10 gift card to spend at Newegg).

Thanks for all the help everyone.

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Congratualtions on taking the big step of building your own PC. I am sure you will find it very rewarding - and that you have a good set of components.

You might find these step by step instructions with pictures helpful:

http://www.computerforum.com/104641-how-build-computer-step-step-photos.html

Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC - New-System-Build - Homebuilt-Systems

For more detailed instructions on installing a video card:

How to Install Video Card Upgrades
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