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Old 09-16-2008, 04:38 PM   #1
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Hey, guys. I'm a newbie when it comes to computer-parts and the like, and am wondering if I could get anyone's help.

I'm looking at upgrading my graphics / video card, but haven't the slightest clue as to what would be a proper choice for my computer. I know if I just go all out and spend a lot of money on one, chances are, my comp. won't be able to handle it and I would have wasted a lot of money.

This's what comes up when I go into "System":

"Computer:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU
E2160 @ 1.80GHz
1.80 GHz, 1.00 GB of RAM
Physical Adress Extension"

And, I get this from "System Information":

"OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
System Type: X86-based PC
Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13 GenuineIntel ~1799 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date: Phoenix Technologies, LTD v5.03, 2/18/2008
Available Physical Memory: 1.35 GB
Total Virtual Memory: 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory: 1.96 GB
Page File Space: 3.84 GB"

This from dxdiag's Display tab:

"Name: Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip Type: Intel(R) GMA 3100
DAC Type: Internal
Approx. Total Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1440x900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor"

And, finally, this from dxdiag's System tab:

"...
System Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
System Model: KJ389AA-ABA SR5433WM
BIOS: v5.03
...
Memory: 2038MB RAM
Page file: 607MB used, 3322MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)"

I tried to delete the bit of redundancy that came with all of this.

I'm sure there is more information needed, and half of this info. is probably not relevant; but I haven't the slightest of clues as to what that needed information is. :P If you're up for helping me out, and need more, feel free to request it (and, if you will, tell me how to retrieve it).

Thanks to anyone who responds.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:04 PM   #2
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does it have agp or pci-e x16(big) slots?
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A friend and I were trying to figure that out when looking inside of my computer, and we came to the conclusion that it's PCI-Express.
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If PCI-E x16 1.1/2.0: EVGA/XFX/BFG/ZOTAC 8800GT (I can't remember whether it needs a separate power connector. If it does then you will have to check your PSU, if it doesn't your good to go)
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look like this? the two longer ones are PCI-Express

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Old 09-16-2008, 06:12 PM   #6
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im guessing this is your computer?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...roduct=3719122

if this is it, then this is your mobo
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...roduct=3719122

and it says you have an PCI-E X16 Slot
the 8800GT requires its own 6-pin power connector, and from what i have seen, there is a high chance that you will need a new PSU since most factory built only gives you a required psu just to run the system, one with at least 400W and 22A IIRC.
But i suggest getting an 450W with an 6-pin PCI-E Connector.
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If you're going to buy a new PSU I highly suggest you buy an Antec Basiq 500W PSU.
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1.1/2.0: [/B]EVGA/XFX/BFG/ZOTAC 8800GT
I've not the slightest of clues what most of this means, but, I can gather that 8800GT is the model of video card.

I do have a 16-pin PCI-E slot, though, so, according to Teny (who hit the nail on the head w/ my computer model), I may need another power supply.



There are a couple of these loose on the inside of my computer, though. It seems like they could be a connection to the power supply; is that true? - Or do I definately need another PSU?

Also, with this upgrade, I'm assuming I should throw in a couple of extra fans for cooling.
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The EVGA/XFX/BFG/ZOTAC are just different brands of the 8800GT. The 2.0/1.1 is the speed of your PCI-E port. The speeds don't really matter as they are backwards compatible.

Those cables you see loose are from your PSU; they are called 4-pin connectors. What you will need is a 6-pin PCI-E connector that looks like this:



(The one on the left of course)

It is best that you do get a new PSU, the one I linked earlier is only $40 so it's a good deal. However, there may be 4-pin -> 6-pin PCI-E adapters out there that you could buy. It would not be the best idea though as they can damage your card if it is not given enough power.

It would be a good idea to add at least another fan in there. I regret not having 3 case fans but it's not really my fault. My heatsink is too tall and prevents me from mounting a fan on the side panel. I had to remove the side air duct too.
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thats not the right one, thats the molex cable.
you will need something like this, only if you PSU doesnt have one

But i would recommend having a PSU that comes with its own 6-pin connector

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1.1/2.0: [/b]EVGA/XFX/BFG/ZOTAC 8800GT
the 1.1/2.0 is the PCI-E slot, its kind of like a fancy term for the PCI-E X16 slot.
The EVGA/XFX/BFG/ZOTAC is the company of the card. for example, mines is the EVGA 8800GT
and you got the 8800GT is the model.

you dont need more fans, though its good, but only put some on if theres a slot, the heatsink and fan should be good for its own card so you really dont need better cooling.

what you can do is take the PSU out, and list the specs that should be on a sticker on a side.

EDIT - dang JogaBonito1502 beat me in posting again... haha.
the graphics card should come with its own molex - 6 pin PCI-E connector, unless you get like an open box or incomplete one.
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Awesome. - I think I'll go with this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143136
This for RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184
And, this for a PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371019

I've priced it all at around $350 (and, by the time I get enough extra money after bills / savings, it may even go down a bit. )

My current PSU is:

Model: ATX-250-12Z
Input: 100-127V 6A, 200-240V 3A 50 / 60 Hz
Output: 12v / 14A
5v / 25 A
3.3v / 18 A

Thanks a lot for your guys' help. I really appreciate it.
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Yeah, you'll need a better PSU. 14A on a single 12V rail is not enough. For $200 you can get an HD4850 which I think is faster than that 8800GT. Correct me if I'm wrong. However the only problem I think might cause you is to upgrade the PSU because the HD4850 might need PCI-E connectors. But then again, you can get a HD4850 for $170 and spend the rest on a better PSU.
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yeah, the 4850 is faster than the 8800GT.
both the 8800GT and the 4850 needs a 6-pin PCI-E connector.
so you will need to get a new PSU no matter what if you plan to get a graphics card
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Does the brand of the Graphics Card matter?

It's seemed to me as if they're just kind of exchangable.
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to me, any brand is pretty much the same.
If they sell, then they will work and its good.
for nvidia, most people go with eVGA, ASUS, and XFX
and with ATI, people go with Hightech, Sapphire, and Poworcolor.
but some people will just go with the cheaper one because it saves them money, but the warranty probably wont be as good.
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Visiontek have a lifetime warranty, Palit are very reliable too and have some brilliant non-reference designs.
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quick question about lifetime warranty.
Does the lifetime warranty mean in your lifetime? or the products lifetime?
from what i have heard, it is the products lifetime, so if the product has a life expectancy of 5 years, then the warranty is actually just 5 years.

is that true?
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