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Old 01-26-2008, 04:08 PM   #1
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Through most of the benchmark's I've found, the 3870 will beat or loose by a slight. However when anti aliasing is applied at 2xx, it seems that the 3870 will fall short compared to the 8800gt. Strange thing is, on paper the 3870 will match or beat the 8800 gt. however the 8800GT still beats the 3870.Here's the comparison How does this happen?

Does the driver for each graphic card have to do with the superior performance of the GT?
Does the memory interface have anything to do with AA making the 3870 lag?

Seems like the 8800GT for now is still better
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:37 PM   #2
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the 8800gt is a better card . all the benchmarks have proven it
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Here's a good read from Tom's hardware: AMD Radeon HD 3800: ATI Strikes Back. It seems their lack of performance is due to limited memory bandwidth.
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and the g92 core is superior
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:35 AM   #5
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well yes the 8800 gt is proven better in benchmarks, but I read that the 3870 over clocks like none other. Plus those can be placed in a 4xGPU pattern whereas the 8800 GT is limited to 3. Not to mention the 3870 is using a smaller, thus newer GPU and GDDR4 as memory. I just can't understand why the 8800Gt is so much better except for driver or the memory interface.

Does anyone one have insight on the situation?
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Well finally I found the defining factor; Shader speeds. the 3870 has a shader speed of 775 MHz and the 8800GT is 1500 MHz. Why does ATI keep making epic cards and cheaping out in key areas of it, thus making it crap?
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ok . but 8800's are old news .
just wait till 9 series come out . then we will play the benchmark game
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ok . but 8800's are old news .
just wait till 9 series come out . then we will play the benchmark game
9 series is just a smaller 8 series.
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with 2 stuck to gether
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then would 2x 9000's be like what 2x 8800gt's are doing? thats only making more smaller GPU's to divide the load, instead of making a truly powerful card.
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with 2 stuck to gether
That's only the 9800GX2, and it's delayed.

"then would 2x 9000's be like what 2x 8800gt's are doing? thats only making more smaller GPU's to divide the load, instead of making a truly powerful card."

It will be two 8800 GTS' together will smaller die, and likely lower clocks because of heat. The 9800GX2 will only be about 30-40% faster than the 8800 Ultra out now.
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that is still quite a bit faster . but it all comes down to the price
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amd has just left the high end market pd....nividia and intel have a free reign...hopefully amd can pull there act together i would like to have more options when building a rig.
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amd has just left the high end market pd....nividia and intel have a free reign...hopefully amd can pull there act together i would like to have more options when building a rig.
The 3870X2 is 20-40% faster than the 8800 Ultra
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and here nivida is almost out with there new cards to stomp them and i didnt think it was as good as the ultra i could be wrong but i did link the whole thing a while back in the social lounge!!matter of fact it was better then the 3870x2
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and here nivida is almost out with there new cards to stomp them and i didnt think it was as good as the ultra i could be wrong but i did link the whole thing a while back in the social lounge!!matter of fact it was better then the 3870x2
Cards wont be out till April. 3870x2 is already out. 3870x2 is better than the Ultra, i've seen the benchmarks
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AMD / ATI is bustin' out with some new graphics cards for your gaming (or casual use) pleasure, and we've got details to share with you. The company has recently issued its Radeon HD 3870 X2 for review, and FPSLabs has the breakdown of the company's new high-end gamer, pushing it to the limit with Hell-ride tests utilizing Bioshock, Oblivion, and F.E.A.R., amongst others. The card performed like a monster in most arenas, though when it went up against EA's monster Crysis, even the dual-GPU card buckled under the intense pressure of the game, getting a surprise beating from the supposedly-less-powerful NVIDIA 8800GTS 512. We won't give you the nine-page rundown, but you can get the idea. The company also recently released a more consumer-oriented set of cards, the Radeon HD 3650 and 3450, meant for a kinder, gentler user -- you can check all the info on those dudes in the read link. Enjoy

its not even better then the gts so not even close to the ultra sorry.

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review

i linked it once again as you can see amd falls short.theres your bench marks.
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AMD / ATI is bustin' out with some new graphics cards for your gaming (or casual use) pleasure, and we've got details to share with you. The company has recently issued its Radeon HD 3870 X2 for review, and FPSLabs has the breakdown of the company's new high-end gamer, pushing it to the limit with Hell-ride tests utilizing Bioshock, Oblivion, and F.E.A.R., amongst others. The card performed like a monster in most arenas, though when it went up against EA's monster Crysis, even the dual-GPU card buckled under the intense pressure of the game, getting a surprise beating from the supposedly-less-powerful NVIDIA 8800GTS 512. We won't give you the nine-page rundown, but you can get the idea. The company also recently released a more consumer-oriented set of cards, the Radeon HD 3650 and 3450, meant for a kinder, gentler user -- you can check all the info on those dudes in the read link. Enjoy

its not even better then the gts so not even close to the ultra sorry.

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review

i linked it once again as you can see amd falls short.theres your bench marks.
http://www.techpowerup.com/?50373

scroll down, and you'll see where it beats the ultra.
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so wait.... Ultra or 3870X2 better @_@???
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That's sad. ATI had to add a second GPU to their 3870 in order for it to beat an 8800 Ultra.
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