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Old 11-22-2008, 12:39 PM   #1
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Default Graphics card help

hello

i am currently looking for a graphics card for my desktop pc, and am a bit unsure about which one to get

i can currently run fable tlc, the sims 2, morrowind, spore on minimum settings, so nothing really big

i am looking to be able to run call of duty 5, fallout 3, football manager 2009 (on 3D mode) and oblivion

these are my system specs:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/6/2008, 18:09:03
Machine name: CAMERON-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.080917-1612)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: DIXONSXP
System Model: Ei 305
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1014MB RAM
Page File: 905MB used, 1374MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode


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Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Controller 0 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_0CCB105B&REV_02
Display Memory: 224 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 224 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1138 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2006 00:00:30, 2105344 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6432-11CF-9977-C12CA3C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2772
SubSys ID: 0x0CCB105B
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
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DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled


obviously i cant run much with it having an intergrated chipset

i have found the following guide which has been quite useful in understanding the hierarchy:

http://www.cod4forums.com/index.php?showtopic=19714



any help or recommendations of a graphics card as cheap as possible (but a nvidia or ati radeon one) that can run the specified games well will be greatly appreciated

thanks

also i have found this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...f33d43ff45c6ba

it seems very cheap compared to other sites, is it any good?
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:52 PM   #2
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forget that, just found:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GeForce-...7376239&sr=8-1

i think its a good medium between the more expensive 8800 series and the 8600gt

found this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-GeForce-...7376653&sr=1-1

but i dont know if its an nvidia because although its a geforce, it seems strange to be cheaper than the 8600gts

also this seems bizarrely cheap for a 9 series

http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...ufacturer_id=0
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:06 PM   #3
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The 8800GS is the better choice performance wise.

The 9500GT is an entry level card, hence the low price.

The thing is though, will it work in your motherboard? Do you have an available PCI Express slot?

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Old 11-22-2008, 01:13 PM   #4
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ummm....

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how do i find out...?
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:18 PM   #5
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Do you know what motherboard model is in that machine?

Download this free app: Belarc Advisor It should tell you what motherboard you have. It will be listed under the Main Circuit Board heading. Then we can work from there.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:14 PM   #6
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the 52 euro card you posted is around 64 USD why not save up and get a better card that can last longer with a newer GPU like a 8800 GT 512 i have it and it runs fallout and COD fantastically.... I found a recertified one for 109 USD but im sure you could find one cheaper during the huge sale season coming up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130412
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Excellent suggestion, but he may not be able to use a PCI Express video card. He still hasn't replied to what his motherboard is and what available slots it has for a video card.
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