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Old 10-21-2009, 10:05 PM   #11
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i swear by the speakers i recommended. i can hear them across my house, thats about 50ft away. just the 4 satellite speaker have more power than some of the others recommended.
i keep them at half power and then just adjust the sound in itunes, that doesn't really matter but i thought i should add that in.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:31 PM   #12
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^ You know watts really don't mean anything, right?
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:18 PM   #13
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lol hahah so maybe somebody can answer another question what other speakers can i get with a sub that will actually make the floor "shake" if i crank it up.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:45 PM   #14
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If you want your floor to "shake", get some more cash.

I used the Logitech X-230's for awhile, great speakers. The Z-2300 really shine.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:52 AM   #15
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well then i'd be willing to spend some more money to do this.. are the x-230's and do they have powerful, crisp sound?! (and can they make the floor "shake")

what do u guys think about these?!

ALTEC LANSING VS2521
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Altec Lansing VS2621
im kinda leaning towards the VS2521...

which ones is better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836113021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836113027

and yes i've raise my price range up to around 50$ but i dont really wanta go higher than that.

also can anyone recommend where to buy these altecs?! for cheap. the cheapest i can find is radioshack for 53$.

im also looking into more suggestions. and comments are always welcome!

tell me why maybe I should or shouldnt get altecs.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:51 PM   #16
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^ You know watts really don't mean anything, right?
yes they do. explain how they don't?
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yes they do.
No they really really don't... at least not in terms of volume, which is a common misconception amongst most.
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explain how they don't?
Well to start with manufacturers often quote "peak" watts - which are what speakers can handle for very brief periods of time without distorting, around 10ms - instead of the RMS level which is what they can handle continuously. Many people know that and think they know it all, but that's just the start of the issues! Even if they quote RMS there's lots of problems, some manufacturers have recently taken to quoting the wattage at 10% distortion or worse which would be appalling to listen to by anyone's standards...

Again, a few people realise the above, and may be reading this thinking they know it all already and they only look at RMS figures at low distortion levels, so can't go wrong. Think again. Far less commonly understood is that even if manufacturers all quoted RMS wattage at say a distortion level of 0.01%, it STILL wouldn't mean anything. Watts is a measurement of how much power a device uses, it's not a measure of volume. So if you're looking for how much current your amplifier will draw under maximum load then yes - watts are what you need to look at. Otherwise nope.

It really all comes down to how efficient your cabs / amps are, a top end efficient box can output stupidly loud, clean sound operating at around 200W RMS. Much, much louder than say a super duper 1000W home cinema system. Anyone that's used D&B stuff will know what I mean, this is absolute top end touring grade sound stuff - not to be sniffed at in terms of sound quality, volume or price! On the other hand, these "brilliant" Bose-like home cinema systems that operate at 1000W and above will be rather quiet in comparison simply because they haven't been designed to the same level or specifications. Not necessarily a bad thing in itself, to design something that's going in your living room to the same standard as something that's being used on the main stage at Glastonbury would be overkill - but it does prove the very important point that even RMS wattage quoted at reasonable distortion levels means very little when comparing products.
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k so whats the best system i can get for 50$

i need suggestions please!
is it the
ALTEC LANSING VS2521
or the
Altec Lansing VS2621

or something else!! please help me.
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It really all comes down to how efficient your cabs / amps are, a top end efficient box can output stupidly loud, clean sound operating at around 200W RMS.
...and just to reiterate his point, speakers can play extremely loud with only one watt. Those RMS ratings are used to cover small peaks within the musical material. 200 hundred watts is extremely loud if fed to a speaker for any long period of time.
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guys any reccomendations?!
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