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Old 02-07-2009, 03:53 AM   #1
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Default Going to put the order in a newegg tomorrow

Heres what I have. Let me know what you think. The computer will be for some light photo editing, maybe a small amount of video editing, and a bit of gaming. Nothing fancy but good enough for a few years. I have a case already that I will be using. I think I will grab my IDE dvd burner from my current computer

GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128342

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200 Brisbane 2.7GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103210

Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134730

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

EVGA 512-P3-N954-TR GeForce 9500 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130378

Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YD 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136010



Comments/suggestions. Total price is $300 - $30 in rebates if I ever get them (I never count on them) Seems like a good all around computer. Let me know. Thanks
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Old 02-07-2009, 04:35 AM   #2
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GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128342
Go with a 780G if you can. A much better board overall and will support the Phenoms if you want to upgrade.

You might want to upgrade the GPU to a HD 4670 if you plan on doing some gaming as well. That should only be a ~$20 increase and it'll be worth it IMO.
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Old 02-07-2009, 09:17 AM   #3
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Yeah that was my thought as I was going to bed. "Someone will suggest a 780G board". I honestly don't know much about them. Could someone enlighten me as to the benefit of the 780G over this 740G. The 780G's I am looking at are in the $80 range and if I put a similar GPU in what benefit would I see? What is the justification for the extra $25 other than "its better".

The 780's I was looking at didn't seem to be crossfire compatible, or at least very picky. So if I spent $25 more on the MB and $20 more on the GPU what would be the difference?
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:31 AM   #4
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Yeah that was my thought as I was going to bed. "Someone will suggest a 780G board". I honestly don't know much about them. Could someone enlighten me as to the benefit of the 780G over this 740G. The 780G's I am looking at are in the $80 range and if I put a similar GPU in what benefit would I see? What is the justification for the extra $25 other than "its better".
It will support four RAM sticks, whilst the 740G only supports two, so it'll be much easier to upgrade. Better power circuitry so you'll be able to run the Phenoms which need a lot more power. Integrated HD 3200 which is really not bad for onboard, the 740G's sucks. It'll even do Crossfire with a HD 3000 card. Much better OC'ing board as well with a more complete BIOS, which can increase performance as the Brisbanes OC pretty well.
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The 780's I was looking at didn't seem to be crossfire compatible, or at least very picky. So if I spent $25 more on the MB and $20 more on the GPU what would be the difference?
If you want CF support, you'd need to look to the more expensive 790GXs. You're never really going to get much for <$100, but a 780G is a big step up from a 740.
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Yeah, the HD 4670 is almost double the performance in some benchmarks.

It's just an all around better card.
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:02 PM   #6
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I don't mean to disagree with you guys at all, I'm just still a bit confused. If I upgrade to the HD4670 GPU then the fact that the 780G has good on board video is pretty much moot....correct?

Aside from that, I can overclock the Brisbane with a 780g better (I've never done such a thing and would have to be walked through that), use more ram (but 4GB is probably the highest I will ever need anyway...right?).

I suppose the ability to upgrade to a phenom makes sense. That way this computer will last me 5-6 years instead of 2-3 (although I've had my 1.8ghz for 6 years.....). I have noticed that a lot of the 780g boards are limited to 95W CPU's though, is that a concern?

What 780g board would you recommend then?

PS. A little more info. I will most likely be using XP since that is what I have and doubt I will justify spending $100 on an OS. I don't need 100fps at high setting. Thanks for putting up with me. I feel like an idiot about this stuff.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Is there any problem with me using an IDE DVD burner instead of spending another $20 on a SATA one?
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Doesn't matter that 780g mobo has on board video. I think they are just refering to the 780g northbridge chipset. It must be an overall better chipset or something. IDK cause i use intel p45.

If you don't do anything intensive then 3gb is the most you'll need anyways.

Idk about the 95w cpu. As long as it has the same cpu socket it should be fine.

I have no idea about amd mobos.

XP IMHO is a superior os system. It is very stable and only takes up 3-5 gigs. (ulike vista a whopping 21gb) Vista is nice and all but it does require a lot of resources. I think you'll find xp running much better than vista.
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Could someone explain to me what a north and south bridge do and how that affects computer speed?
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Aside from that, I can overclock the Brisbane with a 780g better (I've never done such a thing and would have to be walked through that), use more ram (but 4GB is probably the highest I will ever need anyway...right?).
We can help you with that. In fact, I think I can leave that to Joga, he has his running at 3.4GHz.
And if you're planning on keeping it for 5-6 years, then you will most definitely need more than 4GB in the future.
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I have noticed that a lot of the 780g boards are limited to 95W CPU's though, is that a concern?
Once you come to upgrade, most of the Phenoms will have a 95W TDP. And anyway, that's only a precaution, I'm sure they'd run 125Ws fine.
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What 780g board would you recommend then?
TBH, I don't see anything wrong with the cheapest one, the ECS, but there's an ASUS for a little more if you want to go with a better known brand.
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PS. A little more info. I will most likely be using XP since that is what I have and doubt I will justify spending $100 on an OS. I don't need 100fps at high setting. Thanks for putting up with me. I feel like an idiot about this stuff.
If you already have a copy of XP you can use, then it's not going to be worth paying the extra for Vista.
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Oh yeah, I forgot. Is there any problem with me using an IDE DVD burner instead of spending another $20 on a SATA one?
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Could someone explain to me what a north and south bridge do and how that affects computer speed?
The NB and SB don't necessarily affect the computer's speed, although they could if you take OC'ing into account as better chipsets produce better overclocks. Oh god, this is really difficult to explain...
The motherboard is like the base, every other component is linked with the motherboard, and what you can upgrade later depends on the capabilities of your mobo. So it's better to have a good base to begin with.
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Ok I think I'm ready to order. I changed the MB and GPU but everything else is the same

ASUS 780G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131324

MSI HD4670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127383

The only thing left is if you think that the Thermaltake PSU will be alright. It got good reviews so I think it would be just fine. Only 2 SATA connectors but at the moment I only have 1 SATA HD and will be using my old IDE DVD burner. I dont think I will ever need more than 2 HD's.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

Am I ready to order!
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