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Old 11-14-2007, 01:11 AM   #1
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Default Girlfriends build

So here we go..


CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Processor - 2.30GHz $93
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...696&CatId=2328

Mobo
Asus M2n-MX SE $60
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...594&CatId=2320


Memory
Patriot Signature 1024MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory - $35
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...664&CatId=1872


PSU
Thermaltake / PurePower / 430-Watt / ATX / Dual 80mm LED Fan / 20/24-Pin / SATA Ready / PCI-E Ready / Power Supply $40
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...575&CatId=1078

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 160GB Hard Drive - 7200, 8MB, SATA-300 - $60
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...363&CatId=2457


Anyways, changes and so will be on the way.

This is only a budget in mind, trying to get best price to performance ratio.

So were looking at $288

Input/suggestions is greatly appreciated, because ive been away from building computers for a long while now.


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Old 11-14-2007, 01:24 AM   #2
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I would get the Athlon x2 5600+ if its in your budget range. Everything else looks pretty ok for a decent pc.

Yeah, the cd drives are plug and play. Also, get the motherboard with the integrated graphics, that way you can save a couple extra bucks, unless you want better graphics performance.......but you can always get that later.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:25 AM   #3
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No, thats getting up there, although might be able to step it up to a 4600+

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...571&CatId=1946
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:31 AM   #4
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What is she going to be using it for?
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:39 AM   #5
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CD drives are pretty standard and should work with the new motherboard, as long as there is a spare IDE controller on the motherboard (which I'm sure still has at least one).

Both of those motherboards looks like they use integrated graphics. If you really want to cut down on cost, you don't really need to purchase a video card. Just plug the monitor into the back of the motherboard. Both motherboards you linked has an extra PCI-express x16 in case you do want a video card in the future or maybe you just straight out want a dedicated video card. But if cost is a concern, you can get the graphics card later.

All the parts you linked looks good and should work. If she's into performance, perhaps a faster RAM (DDR2 800) is good. For CPU, get as high as you can afford.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:42 AM   #6
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basic stuff for a teenager, aka AIM\MSN\Myspace\etc. at least thats what i can tell by the build specs, a 4200+ will be plenty of power, my 3600+ at stock run very well, and if she ever needs any more juice, you can just throw a aftermarket cooler on there and OC it a little.
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Even then I still don't think it would be worth risking stability for something like that.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:02 AM   #8
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What is she going to be using it for?
Normal stuff... aim/msn/myspace downloading music watching youtube things etc. Although I did give her photoshop and indesign and she loves to fool around with those programs.

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CD drives are pretty standard and should work with the new motherboard, as long as there is a spare IDE controller on the motherboard (which I'm sure still has at least one).

Both of those motherboards looks like they use integrated graphics. If you really want to cut down on cost, you don't really need to purchase a video card. Just plug the monitor into the back of the motherboard. Both motherboards you linked has an extra PCI-express x16 in case you do want a video card in the future or maybe you just straight out want a dedicated video card. But if cost is a concern, you can get the graphics card later.

All the parts you linked looks good and should work. If she's into performance, perhaps a faster RAM (DDR2 800) is good. For CPU, get as high as you can afford.
I dont think the first one uses integrated graphics.. But I guess maybe it does, and even if it does I have an x300 Gcard she could use.


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basic stuff for a teenager, aka AIM\MSN\Myspace\etc. at least thats what i can tell by the build specs, a 4200+ will be plenty of power, my 3600+ at stock run very well, and if she ever needs any more juice, you can just throw a aftermarket cooler on there and OC it a little.
yeah you're right. And I dont really want to tamper with any of that when its not mine. So she will be keeping stock speeds. Hmm, i gotta find a heatsink huh. Recommendations?

Or do I even need one?


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Even then I still don't think it would be worth risking stability for something like that.
Yeah, im not going to.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:06 AM   #9
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In the first motherboard link, I found this:

"...integrated GeForce 6100 GPU for high-definition video processing with maximum resolutions up to 1920 x 1440..."

FOr the CPU, I would just get this:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103776

Now, you don't have to worry about a heatsink because it comes with a fansink all in one. It has a better core for not that much more. Plus, free shipping and in stock.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:12 AM   #10
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Oh yeah I noticed that too, it didnt register with me :stupid:

Anyways, I would be shopping on newegg but for some reason my isp WONT load newegg.

Seriously, its the gayest thing ever...

Although that page did pop up, but see now, it wont load anything else.

So bizzare.
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Definitely get that CPU though. It's fast and compatible with your motherboard.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:21 AM   #12
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Ok found it on tigerdirect



http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...696&CatId=2328




I hate not being able to use newegg :tear:


Ok, so is that everything? ill edit my OP, and then we have the case and disk drives to work with, so I think were all set, right? Or do I need to buy thermal paste and or heat sink for the processor.



Here is another question too.. Should I get two gigs of that memory, or should I step it up to 800mhz and only get a gig of higher quality? I was thinking the 2gb of 667mhz because she doesnt really use any high end apps other then photoshop (meaning no games, lol)
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:50 AM   #13
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Man, after seeing your thread it made me want to upgrade mine. I spend $200 already on parts: Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Toledo (OEM), stock cooler and thermal grease, plus 2 GB more G. Skill DR400 RAM. I didn't want to go too overboard with my upgrade, but the CPU is like $55!!!

Anyways, you don't need any thermal pads or grease. The retail box already comes with thermal pad on the bottom of the heatsink. It has very detailed instructions on setting it up. Huge poster.

Definitely get as much RAM as you can (even if they are slower, but preferably faster too). I say 1GB minimum, but 2GB is probably a better choice these days. You'll never know what she's going to be using it for. I'm putting in 3GB for my system but still result in dual channel because of the config (2 x512MB & 2 x1GB). As long as you install RAM in pairs, you'll get dual channel setup.

You can use your existing CD burners if you wish and your old case as well. If you do want to get a new case, that's going to cost you some money. If your old case fits, maybe you can just gut it out and reuse it. Otherwise, you can always get something like this:

Rosewill R5717-P BK 120mm Fan ATX Mid Tower Computer Case withTool-Free kits - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147056

You will need to buy an 80mm case fan too.
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Lol, so you just bought those parts after seeing this thread?

And the newegg link wont work. I know what you mean though, and we are using her case and cd drives still.

Do I need to worry about a heatsink when I get this processor or does it come with one stock in the box?


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As for ram, what do you thinka bout this?

I bet we could swing two of these.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...664&CatId=1872
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it will come with one in the box

this applies for both intel and AMD,

if its retail, it comes with a cooler\instructions\maybe a driver disk\case stickers\etc.

if its OEM, then its CPU ONLY, nothing else(bought mine OEM and it was just a clear plastic box with some stiff foam in it with the cpu in there)
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If you get the retail version of the CPU, you don't have to worry abuot the heatsink and fan. They come inside the package along with the CPU. That Rosewill case I linked looks pretty damn good for the price though. I wouldn't mind getting it myself.

I got to thinking more because I can't seem to enjoy my favorite games anymore. Initially, I never planned on upgrading this machine I have now because of how much it cost to upgrade. Socket 939 is done with and the X2 Toledo is the best I can do. Only $55 so it's not bad. RAM killed my though.
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Rosewill is Newegg, and can only be bought from www.newegg.com or www.chiefvalue.com (there site aswell).
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it will come with one in the box

this applies for both intel and AMD,

if its retail, it comes with a cooler\instructions\maybe a driver disk\case stickers\etc.

if its OEM, then its CPU ONLY, nothing else(bought mine OEM and it was just a clear plastic box with some stiff foam in it with the cpu in there)
oh, ok thanks I get it

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If you get the retail version of the CPU, you don't have to worry abuot the heatsink and fan. They come inside the package along with the CPU. That Rosewill case I linked looks pretty damn good for the price though. I wouldn't mind getting it myself.

I got to thinking more because I can't seem to enjoy my favorite games anymore. Initially, I never planned on upgrading this machine I have now because of how much it cost to upgrade. Socket 939 is done with and the X2 Toledo is the best I can do. Only $55 so it's not bad. RAM killed my though.
yeah lol. and i wish the link would load for me.

and what do you think about the ram i linked?
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The RAM is not bad for the price. I was debating on the Patriot one myself too, but went with G. Skill. Even cheaper, hehe.

That's wierd how you can't load from Newegg. Have you tried using a different browser?
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Thats what I was thinking, ill edit op and find total.
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