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Old 10-20-2011, 12:13 AM   #1
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Hello, this is my first post here so I hope this is the right section. Anyways, I recently got a new computer with decent specs. I can run most games fine, but it seems like I have a lot of frame rate problems. For instance, Day of Defeat source gives me trouble and I can't really enjoy playing it because of the frame rate problems. Same with Fallen Earth. But I can run other games with no problem. Battle field 3 beta on low specs worked better than Day of Defeat, for example. Also, I have problems running games like Club penguin or flash games on Kongregate or Mochi games. Thanks for the help.

Also, here is my DxDiag

Time of this report: 10/19/2011, 22:44:42
Machine name: FRAWSTY-HP
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: h8-1000z
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/04/11 09:22:10 Ver: 6.12
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 840T Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6136MB RAM
Page File: 2180MB used, 10089MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:21 AM   #2
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Start > Run (or windows key +"R") and type msconfig, click OK.

Disable everything under the startup tab. Click apply/close at the bottom, restart.

Try games again. if issue persists, get Crappy PC No More! | The PC Decrapifier and run it. Complete as much of it as you can. Reboot, try again.

The system seems to be fine spec-wise, also it doesn't hurt to check for updated drivers for your video card.

FYI DxDiag is useless to us here for the most part. use Speccy - System Information - Free Download instead and post the text report instead. (File > Save Text Report)
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:25 AM   #3
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Hmm okay I will try that stuff when I'm able to. I have uptated the drivers recently, so that's ruled out. Thanks for the reply, I'll let you know how all that goes within the next day or two.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:16 AM   #4
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Okay what info would you like from the text report? It's quite a lot and I know you don't need me to post ALL of it haha.
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That DXDiag doesn't list the graphics card on your system?

The graphics card is the most important aspect of a gaming system, and so may be a reason why you are only able to run at low settings, with some games running slower than other if its for example a motherboard spec card.

Some games just push more than others, and is probably again why you are having issues running games even in low settings compared to other ones.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:34 AM   #6
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Yeah it does, I guess I had it in my mind that what I posted gave that information. My bad, I'll post it when I get home.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:33 PM   #7
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Okay here's the Video Dxdiag info

Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 440
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 440
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DC0&SUBSYS_23111462&REV_A1
Display Memory: 4063 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1503 MB
Shared Memory: 2559 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: E2041
Monitor Id: GSM4EC9
Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,n vwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.8538 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.8538
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 9/22/2011 17:41:00, 15688512 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4E80-11CF-8856-1D031FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0DC0
SubSys ID: 0x23111462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem121.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section 005:8.17.12.8538ci\ven_10de&dev_0dc0
Rank Of Driver: 80E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:34 PM   #8
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The cards that are in those HP desktops are not very good. I would recommend you upgrade to an actual desktop gaming card. More than likely, you will need to upgrade your power supply too.
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:55 PM   #9
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*facepalm* Why do people still rely on the archaic DXDiag output? It doesn't include the WHOLE PICTURE like Speccy does, and to answer the question, a Speccy log only needs the first set of data from the hardware, just before "Operating System" (because it WILL list the serial number). Dxdiag is nice for cases of listing the actual GPU RAM amount and free RAM, but other than that... Speccy is king.

Here's my Speccy Output for comparison's sake.

Summary
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 28 C
Thuban 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-890FXA-UD5 (Socket M2)
Graphics
Acer B273HU (2048x1152@60Hz)
AL2223W (1680x1050@60Hz)
ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Hard Drives
291GB AMD 2+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device (RAID)
313GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD321KJ SCSI Disk Device (RAID)
733GB Western Digital WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B SCSI Disk Device (RAID)
Optical Drives
MJE A3GHQVC12 SCSI CdRom Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:17 PM   #10
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Sorry for being so illiterate, I do apologize. Here is the Speccy output


Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 940T 23 C
Thuban 45nm Technology
RAM
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 672.2MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
FOXCONN 2A92 (CPU 1) 19 C
Graphics
E2041 (1600x900@60Hz)
1536MB GeForce GT 440 (MSI) 44 C
Hard Drives
732GB Seagate ST3750528AS SCSI Disk Device (RAID)
Optical Drives
hp DVD A DH16ABLH SCSI CdRom Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
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