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Old 07-17-2005, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default Decided on Chip and Video

Should i Get Either.....

3800+ and 7800GTX

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4200 X2 Dual Core and Someother Card not as Expensive as the 7800.
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Default Re: Decided on Chip and Video

It would help if you gave some more information, like exactly what you would be doing. I'd say to get the 4200 first, and then you could upgrade the video card later.

That hard drive looks a little expensive, and also, aI don't think MSI motherboards support the 7800GTX all that well.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:30 PM   #3
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the second option because you can just upgrade the video card later.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:34 PM   #4
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Default Re: Decided on Chip and Video

I just Found Out that i can afford both the 4200 X2 and the 7800gtx....

what mobo now?

i have a 535watt psu
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:39 PM   #5
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Default Re: Decided on Chip and Video

Here is what i have.

ASUS Black IDE DVD Burner Model DRW-1608P BLACK - Retail

ASPIRE X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST3160023A 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM

SAMSUNG 915N-Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor - Retail

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

BFG Tech EN7800GTX/2DHVT/256 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

ENERMAX EG565AX-VEFMA2.0-SLI ATX12V 535W Power Supply - Retail

MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Sleeve Cooling Fan - Retail

Logitech 967502-0403 Black PS/2 Wired Standard Value Keyboard - OEM

CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX1024-3200C2PRO - Retail

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4200BVBOX - Retail

For $2200
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Default Re: Decided on Chip and Video

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Here is what i have.

ASUS Black IDE DVD Burner Model DRW-1608P BLACK - Retail

ASPIRE X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST3160023A 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM

SAMSUNG 915N-Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor - Retail

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

ASUS EN7800GTX/2DHVT/256 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

ENERMAX EG565AX-VEFMA2.0-SLI ATX12V 535W Power Supply - Retail

MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Sleeve Cooling Fan - Retail

Logitech 967502-0403 Black PS/2 Wired Standard Value Keyboard - OEM

CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX1024-3200C2PRO - Retail

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4200BVBOX - Retail

For $2200
Skip on the 4200+ and get a 4400+ and get a 6800GT PCI Express card or even a 6600GT. Then save up for a 7800GTX for later. Trust me, the Toledo core 4400+ or 4800+ perform much much better then the Manchester core based 4200+ and 4600+ sister chips because of their much higher L2 Cache. It increases performance and the Toledo OCes much much better.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:44 PM   #7
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But the 4200 with 7800gtx is better then the 4600 with 6800GT i would think. the only thing is i would not be looking at upgrading later....i would think that the 4200 and 7800gtx would perform better then a 6800 and a 4600...
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also, it says you have to update the bios to unlock the other processor. What does that mean?
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Yeah, your BIOS on your Motherboard needs to be updated in order to use the full dual core aspect. A simple BIOS flash or a motherboard with dual core ready BIOS is all you need.

Go with the 4200+ and 7800GTX if you do not plan on upgrading later then. In graphics, the 7800GTX outperforms two (2) 6800GTs.

Also, might I recommend a different motherboard? The MSI Neo4 Ultra is good, but is a LOUSY OCer!! HORRIBLE!! Check out these two boards and dare to compare them! I think you will be pleased!!! This will allow you to take the 4200+ to 4800+ levels with ease.

This is DFIs pride and joy. A good OCer, but tedious to get running in most cases. It will require a BIOS flash.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136157

This is ABITs pride and joy. This is the same motherboard I use, except not dual graphics cards (SLi). The FATALTIY is easy to get setup and a good OCer as well. Its cooling is excellent as it uses silent OTES technology on the board. I recommend this one for top performance. NO BIOS flash is required, it is dual core ready!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127206
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:01 PM   #10
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Wow. Ya, Thx for All the INFO Bro.

The Only thing about DFI is i hear they are hard to setup and im no wizard at that myself, so i have opted against DFI, but that Other Board Looks Great Except for the Fact that it is over $200 and that is Out of My League. I Dont mind flashing for the BIOS thing if i know how it is done, but i am already over my $2000 budget but $200 and my Present mobo is $124, so is there one in that range that is easy to setup, it prly will require flashing for BIOS buts that ok.
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