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Old 07-08-2005, 11:50 PM   #1
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I got a new computer today, and I want to transfer all my stuff from my old computer. But the old computer's got problems.

I was visiting a site that I know to be safe, when the computer rebooted. I've hardly ever had problems with it crashing, etc., so this was a little strange. Then, just as the Windows Welcome screen was coming up, it resets again. And it continues like that indefinitely.

I've tried starting in Safe Mode, but after it lists a bunch of file names, it seems to stall on one called Mup.sys or something like that (Years ago I had a virus that reset the computer and, while I thought it was rebooting, it was deleting the hard drive). So I was a little cautious leaving it at that stage.

Does it really take 10+ minutes to boot up in Safe Mode?

Are there any suggestions as to what I should do? I'd just really like to get as much off that computer as I can.

Thanks for any help.
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well, if your new comp is a desktop and has a second harddrive bay, you could plug the harddrive into it and set it as slave, and when you boot to windows, simply browse through it and copy your files over.
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well, if your new comp is a desktop and has a second harddrive bay, you could plug the harddrive into it and set it as slave, and when you boot to windows, simply browse through it and copy your files over.
That was my plan, but someone else told me it might not be safe to do so if there's a virus on the drive. Would that be a problem?
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I don't think that you have a virus. It is more of a hardware issue since it reboots before windows loads.
More than like a failed ram stick or a driver file that went nuts and keeping windows from loading. Slave the driv and get what you want from it then play with the old pc and fix it up as a back-up drive.
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Okay, thanks.

Now comes another problem... slaving the drive. Does that involve more than just hooking it up? I don't really know the first thing about computers, but I think I remember pins or something when putting in a new drive a long time ago.
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it's pretty simple I believe, just unplug it from your old computer and plug it into the new one.. there is a place on the hard drive where a small pin plugs onto the drive. there are different places which make the drive do different things... it is probably set for "master" right now. move it to "slave" and just start it up. viruses or not likely to be a problem as long as you only copy your personal files.
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I'm guessing a error or something gone wrong, probably not a virus like teh Sasser worm.
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Once you get all of you files transferred to your new computer, you could reinstall windows on your older computer. If the same problem occurs, you can pretty much conclude that there is definitly a hardware problem that you should check in to.
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Okay, I 've got the hard drive halfway hooked up. Here's what's going on:

In the new computer, the main drive has two cords: one going to what I assume is the motherboard (I'm not even sure about that), and the other one heads straight up somewhere. On that cord, there's another one tied on, with two ends: P5 and P6. I assume this is for another drive. I plugged the larger end into my old drive, but (and this sounds stupid, I know) I don't know where the other end goes. Should it go into the main drive (I've tried, but it doesn't seem to fit) or somewhere else?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the help.
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It's a bit hard to know what cords and stuff you are talking about... maybe you could give us a picture or something? maybe someone else understands?
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there should be two cords near your existing master drive, one extremely wide one, and one which is very short. these plug into the harddrive. The wide one does have another plug on the same cord, for your second drive.

For the small cord I'm not sure, although I think it is the same way. as far as the other ends, (where they plug into on your motherboard etc.) this is not important.
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I took a picture, but I notice I can't post attachments...

The main drive has a wide red cord with smaller ends attached to it and the motherboard (I think). Then there's a cord with wider ends attached to the drive that goes up somewhere.

Also attached to that cord is another one with one wide end and one small end.

I hooked the wide end of that cord into the slave drive, but I'm not sure what to do with the smaller end.

Does that make any sense at all? Sorry I can't explain it better.
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Well, I just figured out the cord with the wide end is the power, if that helps. I would assume that means the smaller end goes into the drive as well, but for the life of me, I don't see where.
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I'm still a bit confused....
go to www.photobucket.com you can upload pictures there. then give either a link or the <img> tag to show it in your post. sorry for the trouble but that is the only way to show images.
If you don't mind, I may be able to help you through msn if you have it.
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Actually, I think I might have figured it out. I guess the cords are for two different things: the power and the data, right?

Well the data plug on my old computer is a huge flat wide one, where on the new computer it's just a little tiny one.

I didn't notice that the little end fits into the old drive only one way. So I'll try that.

The problem I'm having now is that the power cord doesn't seem to be working anymore (it was 30 seconds ago), so I'll keep trying that.
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yes the power cord should be the skinny one should be the power cord and the wide one is the data...

also, it just occured to me.... you aren't doing that while the computer is on are you???? are you using the same you are using to talk to me with?

if so stop right now before something blows.... wow I forgot to mention that I hope its not too late!
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Hmm... I have it all hooked up now (I think), but it's not being recognized. Should it just automatically show up in My Computer?
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I hope that you had the computer off while making those changes. if it is on, it can damage the hardware. I am very sorry I forgot to mention that! maybe you knew anyway.

Anyway, if you didn't just restart the computer now. yes it should show up i My Computer. If not we'll go from there. you may need to turn it on in the Bios.
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Yeah, I'm making sure it's off before I mess around.

But it's not showing up. Before, when I had the power cord hooked up, I could hear it inside the computer. Now, I don't hear it anymore.

Is there anything else I should try?
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you mean the power cord isn't hooked up now? it should be hooked up.

as long as both cords are plugged into the drive.

Also, make sure that you set the pin to "slave" if not windows won't detect it.
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Yeah, it's set to slave, and the power cord is plugged in, but the other cord keeps falling out.

The problem is, if both cords are plugged firmly into the drive at the same time, the computer won't start. The light on the front just kind of flashes, and then nothing works. I had to unplug the power cord (of the computer), wait a few minutes, and then plug it back in. Then if I unplug either one of the cords from the drive, the computer will turn back on.

Seems a little strange to me.
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