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Old 05-02-2008, 09:58 PM   #1
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So, I plan to build a new computer in the summer; possibly June or July. I was wondering if any major advances in CPU's/gfx cards/etc... will be coming up to lower some of the prices now.

I basically did a little check for the prices and types of parts I want with what is out now.
My budget is roughly 1100 CDN

I guess it will be easier for most of you in the states, if I used newegg.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/...Number=6363905

Any suggestions will be great. I might switch the SLI into just one 8800GT. I'm also looking for a monitor as well. Any suggestions? 22" preferably.
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So, I plan to build a new computer in the summer; possibly June or July. I was wondering if any major advances in CPU's/gfx cards/etc... will be coming up to lower some of the prices now.

I basically did a little check for the prices and types of parts I want with what is out now.
My budget is roughly 1100 CDN

I guess it will be easier for most of you in the states, if I used newegg.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/...Number=6363905

Any suggestions will be great. I might switch the SLI into just one 8800GT. I'm also looking for a monitor as well. Any suggestions? 22" preferably.
for about $5 more, you could get a dvd burner, the dvd rom you got listed is out of stock anyway...
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:21 PM   #3
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well like I said, I'm using the newegg website for the sake of this site, as all my local computer stores I go to carry all the specified parts at similar if not cheaper prices.
But yes, I forgot about a dvd burner drive. Thanks.
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:12 AM   #4
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The biggest new part that will be coming between now and then are the HD 4800 series cards. AMD seem to have struck gold with these chips and they are looking awesome. There might also be some leaked 45nm Phenom and Nvidia 9900 benchmarks by then but that's unlikely.
Here is a chart for the specs of RV770:



As you can see, RV770 will have support for GDDR5 memory running at up to a 4GHz effective speed, 480 stream processors and twice the TMUs as RV670.

And nobody knows whether these are genuine or not but I don't personnnally believe them:







http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-car...sis-tests.html

http://www.bilgiustam.com/512mb-ati-...2006-testleri/

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_22869046/tm.htm

A 9600GT SLI setup is nice but like all multi-GPU setups, you never know what you're getting. In one game, you may get almost double the performance of one card, and in another, performance can be abysmal. At least when you're running a single card, you know what performance you are going to get. Also the other thing is that it forces you to get an Nvidia board which don't have the excellent overclocking abilities that the P35/X38 do.

You might also want to consider a Phenom X2 when they are out. The 9850 X4 matches and sometimes betters the Q6600 in benchmarks and it's overclocking capabilities aren't bad either. 3.4GHz isn't too shabby, and you get CrossfireX support with the 790FX.

So you can expect even more from the Phenom X2, especially a black edition.
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So from what I gather worshipme, you are saying that if these are as 'great' as these tests show, it will push a price drop for the current generations of the parts? If so, wooot! Or are you saying I should wait a bit longer and buy these up and coming wonders?
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I don't personnally think those are genuine. But, just by looking at the pricing, I think we can see that these cards are going to be monsters. In the situation that AMD is in now, they wouldn't price any of their cards above Nvidia's if they couldn't compete. And some may say that the $349 MSPR is due to the expensive GDDR5 memory, but if RV770 couldn't use all that bandwidth and speed, the cards would have been equipped with GDDR3. So with the HD 4870 being priced higher than the 9800GTX, I think that's where performance will be.
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what is 1100 CDN in AU???
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I don't personnally think those are genuine. But, just by looking at the pricing, I think we can see that these cards are going to be monsters. In the situation that AMD is in now, they wouldn't price any of their cards above Nvidia's if they couldn't compete. And some may say that the $349 MSPR is due to the expensive GDDR5 memory, but if RV770 couldn't use all that bandwidth and speed, the cards would have been equipped with GDDR3. So with the HD 4870 being priced higher than the 9800GTX, I think that's where performance will be.
Alright, thanks for the information. Guess only a slight change in price might happen in the next month or so, probably not.

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about 1150?
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about 1150?
Sweet i'll try a get a good build around that....
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I think it's best to wait until you're actually going to be buying the parts before we recommend any, but in short, here's what's coming:

May/June 2008: RV770 HD 4800 (HD 4850/HD 4870/HD 4870X2
July/August: Nvidia GT200 9900GTX 9900GTS
Q3 2008: 45nm Phenoms. 3.2GHz clock speeds expected + triple the L3 cache and other architectural improvements.

Those are the only significant parts that will appear before or around the time you are going to be building your system.
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Sweet i'll try a get a good build around that....
Here we go:

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131142 - $120.00

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030 - $160

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227269 - $92

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 - $90

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814260066 - $255

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025 - $70

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152030 - $100

Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254029 - $170

Total Cost = $1057

Not sure if you need mouse + keyboard.

i hope that everything is good some people might disagree with me on the ram. But i hope if it good
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You can't recommend parts yet. He's not building 'till July.
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You can't recommend parts yet. He's not building 'till July.
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o, I plan to build a new computer in the summer; possibly June or July. I was wondering if any major advances in CPU's/gfx cards/etc... will be coming up to lower some of the prices now.

I basically did a little check for the prices and types of parts I want with what is out now.
My budget is roughly 1100 CDN

I guess it will be easier for most of you in the states, if I used newegg.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/...Number=6363905

Any suggestions will be great. I might switch the SLI into just one 8800GT. I'm also looking for a monitor as well. Any suggestions? 22" preferably.
He wants things recommended to him... with what is out today!
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I guess I wasn't clear in my first post.

Basically, I want some recommendations for a $1100 build now, hoping that BY june, advances will have push the parts down to maybe $900. Allowing me to pick up a 2nd 22" monitor =)

Sorry for the confusion.
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wow , worshipme i never expected that HD4700 to be so good

i carnt wait for release i might even upgrade from my 8800gts
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Here we go:

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131142 - $120.00

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030 - $160

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227269 - $92

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 - $90

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814260066 - $255

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025 - $70

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152030 - $100

Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254029 - $170

Total Cost = $1057

Not sure if you need mouse + keyboard.

i hope that everything is good some people might disagree with me on the ram. But i hope if it good
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I guess I wasn't clear in my first post.

Basically, I want some recommendations for a $1100 build now, hoping that BY june, advances will have push the parts down to maybe $900. Allowing me to pick up a 2nd 22" monitor =)

Sorry for the confusion.
well that is what i have done above.
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Here we go:

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131142 - $120.00

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115030 - $160

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227269 - $92

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 - $90

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814260066 - $255

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025 - $70

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152030 - $100

Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254029 - $170

Total Cost = $1057

Not sure if you need mouse + keyboard.

i hope that everything is good some people might disagree with me on the ram. But i hope if it good
Motherboard: For god's sake don't recommend a 650i. They are pretty awful chipsets and only have 16 PCI-E lanes. I swearb a P35, they are great boards for single GPU sconfigurations and can reach much higher FSB speeds than Nvidia chipsets. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813130098

CPU: In case you don't know, the E7200 is out. 45nm process 9.5x multi and 4GHz overclocked with air cooling. The E6550 is limited by it's 7x multi. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115052

RAM: Here, it depends whether you'd be running XP or Vista. You can run anything on XP with 2GB, but with Vista, I found that upgrading to 4GB brought a noticable performance increase. The GEIL 4GB kit can take up to 2.5V which is awesome. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820146565
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820144098

Video card: Sure, that 8800GT has a nice cooler, but due to the fact that it has the same memory modules and PCB, it will no overclock any better, you can spend $70 less and get the same card. The HD 4800s will also be coming out in late may so you might want to pick one of them up as they're looking very good. The HD 4850 will be around $200. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814150252

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148288
500GB with a 32MB cache.

PSU: OCZ's PSUs are manufactured by the FSP Group so you can be sure they'll be reliable and solid. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817341010

Case: I just got this case myself and it's of very good quality. All aluminium with very good ventilation and lots of neat features:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811233001

Total is $913 with both kits of RAM included so you have room to add a monitor.
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worshipme, do you think the E8400 would be worthwhile?
also, would this powersupply be enough for the specs you listed above?

thanks for all the help so far worshipme and cohen.

The steel gigabyte case seems a big too big but the nzxt apollo looks good.
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WorshipMe, do you think the E8400 would be worthwhile?
I know this isn't for me but the E8400 looks good. Stock 3000MHz and OC's of more than 4000MHz it's not bad for 200 Bucks.

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Also, would this powersupply be enough for the specs you listed above?

thanks for all the help so far worshipme and cohen.

The steel gigabyte case seems a big too big but the nzxt apollo looks good.
I would spend a little more on the PSU supplying these components. The less you pay for a PSU the worse it is. And the efficiency rating isn't that good for this PSU.

http://www.be-quiet.net/be-quiet.net...websiteLang=en

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I'm here!

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It's up to you to decide if you think it's worth spending a little extra to get the 6MB of L2 cache or not. There are benchmarks here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_5.html#sect1
It has the same multipliers as the E8400 (6-9) so overclocking is almost as good.
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I have no experience with that brand, but like Remeniz said, it's efficiency is quite low so it's going to waste a fair but of power and will therefore produce more heat. And the OCZ is actually cheaper. BeQuiet like Remeniz recommended are a high quality brand. Fairly new, but 88% efficiency is the best I've seen.
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Hehe, big is beautiful. It's an all aluminium construction as it's of very high quality. I have the black one myself. Got it a few days ago and I love it. Lots of space, great cooling and loads of clever features.
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