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Old 01-14-2007, 06:18 PM   #21
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Default Re: can any1 tell me bout pentium D?

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I read this article some where ages ago Did you copy and paste this one ?
no, I wrote it from my head. Can you give me ANY evidence showing that the pentium D is better than the core 2 duo?
Here is some benchmark from 3 different sources showing how much better the core 2 duo is.

Loads of different bechmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2795&p=16

Again quite a few benchmarks
http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php...1&limitstart=0

Again tens of benchmarks comparing different processors, E6400 and 950 highlighted.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=437&chart=188

edit: and now it's time for your evidence.. ohh, right! I forgot, "your customer said"
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:29 PM   #22
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no, I wrote it from my head. Can you give me ANY evidence showing that the pentium D is better than the core 2 duo?
Here is some benchmark from 3 different sources showing how much better the core 2 duo is.

Loads of different bechmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2795&p=16

Again quite a few benchmarks
http://www.bcchardware.com/index.php...1&limitstart=0

Again tens of benchmarks comparing different processors, E6400 and 950 highlighted.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=437&chart=188

edit: and now it's time for your evidence.. ohh, right! I forgot, "your customer said"
keep on reading bench marks,People like you keep premium dinner on my plate.mean while 100's come back to me asking for my advice to save their money for speed.Cheers.
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keep on reading bench marks,People like you keep premium dinner on my plate.mean while 100's come back to me asking for my advice to save their money for speed.Cheers.
hahahhaha, hey, I asked for proof? I didn't see any in your post. Ohh, right, you and your "customers" lmao!
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for all i know, those customers could be his parents, siblings and himself! lmfao I hate people that spread this nonesense. I asked for a super pi 1M run at the fastest speed, and i'll show you. Here you go:
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1. Onepagebook (Team OCX) - 8.91 - X6800 @5549.50 Mhz
2. hipro5 (HellasOCTeam) - 9.19 - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz) @ 5553MHz on ABIT AW9D-MAX - under Gorillakos LN2 container - DDR Maximizer powering the rams
3. maxxxpct (shark oc team italy) - 9.33 - Conroe x6800 @ 5506MHz , 1.90V, 2x1GB Team Xtreem 5300@ 846MHz 3-3-3-4 - Asus P5wdh

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1. zbogorgon - 9.8 sec - Intel Core 2 E6700 (2.66Ghz)@5196mhz - Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 5196 MHz 1,81V - TG DDR1000 @ 1039 4-4-4-12 - P5WDH - LN2
2. FUGGER - 10.02 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@5100mhz - X6800 @ 5.1GHz
3. Fixxxer - 10.17 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4986mhz - Core 2 Extreme X6800 @ 4986MHz LN2 w/ Crucial Ballistix 6400 2*1Gb
4. kiwi - 10.34 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4931mhz - Di cooled, need more tweaks
5. Tyrou - 10.58 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4840mhz - X6800 @ 4840MHz - 2x1024MB 6400C3 537MHz 4-4-4-4
6. DEVILEK - 10.69 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4920mhz - Team Poland SPI 1M with poor CPU
7. chefnr1 - 10.82 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4795.80mhz - X6800 @ 4795.8mhz
8. loc.o - 10.95 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4655mhz - E6600 @ 4655 - stock Mach II
9. N3RO - 10.95 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4680mhz - E6600 @ 4680 cellshock 6400 520mhz @ 4-4-4 - Z� do Bench Team
10. Duranona - 10.99 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4672mhz - Conroe X6800+ @ 4672MHz/ 2x1gb Team Xtreem DDR667@ 850 3- 3 - 3 - 7 - <a href="http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=118900&highlight=high+perf+kit" target="_blank">MCT IV SS High perf. kit by Ssilencer
11. rjw - 11 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4640mhz - E6600 @ 4.64Ghz ASUS P5B vanilla
12. Johnny Bravo - 11 sec - Intel Core 2 E6700 (2.66Ghz)@4635.50mhz - no description
13. eshbach - 11.08 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4622mhz - Conroe E6600 @ 4622MHz , 1.65V, 2x1GB G.Skill 6400 @ 513MHz 4-4-4-8 - Asus P5B Deluxe
14. Shark-357 - 11.11 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4565mhz - C2D E6600 @ 4565MHz, 1.75v SS - 2x1GB DDR2800@1014 4-4-4-12 - P5W64
15. freecableguy - 11.13 sec - Intel Core 2 E6700 (2.66Ghz)@4600mhz - Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 ES @ 4600Mhz - 2*1GB OCZ PC2-8000
16. nachthymnen - 11.13 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4610mhz - Core 2 Extreme X6800 @ 4610MHz - 2X1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 @ 988 4,4,4,15 - Asus P5W-DH - DryIce
17. PcCI2iminal - 11.17 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4643mhz - no description
18. bachus_anonym - 11.34 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4492mhz - no description
19. Troman - 11.38 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4505mhz - no description
20. afireinside - 11.39 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4500mhz - E6600 @ 4500mhz
21. Vett95wLT4 - 11.49 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4436mhz - Intel Core 2 Duo X6800 @ 4436Mhz - 2*1GB Team Group 3,4,4 8
22. sl4ck - 11.5 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4454mhz - Conroe E6600 @ 4454MHz 2GB TeamGroup Xtreem @ 990MHz 4-4-4-4
23. I_G - 11.64 sec - Intel Core 2 X6800 (2.93Ghz)@4397mhz - X6800 @ 4397 -G.Skill DDR2 1000 @4-3-3-8
24. coop - 11.64 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4354mhz - E6600 @ 4354MHz (watercooled) Abit-Max , G.Skill 1GBHZ 484MHz 4-5-4-12
25. funkflix - 11.8 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4320mhz - Water.
26. Oldscarface - 11.94 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4248mhz - Conroe E6600 @4248MHz (Chilled AIR) - 1GB (2x512) Corsair PC6400C5 micron d9 chips @944MHz 4-3-3-3-10
27. camouflage - 12.17 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4153mhz - Conroe E6600 @4153MHz on water - 2GB Cellshock PC8000 @923MHz 3-3-3-1
28. DeToNaToR.cl - 12.57 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@4077mhz - E6600 @ 4077MHz 1,57v (BigTyphoon Cooled + 23�C Ambient), G.Skill HZ @ 453Mhz C4, Gigabyte DQ6
29. johann - 12.58 sec - Intel Core 2 E6700 (2.66Ghz)@4140.10mhz - Conroe E6700 ES B1 @ 4140.1Mhz - SingleStage built by me
30. SeLecT - 12.83 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3978mhz - E6600 @ 3978MHz (1.57V ,(watercooled)) - 2x1024MB Cellshock @ 884 Mhz @ 4-4-4-8
31. krampak - 12.94 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3962mhz - E6600 @ 3962MHz (1.58V) + Thermalright Ultra120 + Abit AW9D-MAX (no mods) + 2x512MB Micron 3200 D9 Fat Body @ 2.4V
32. largon - 12.97 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3969mhz - Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3969MHz 1.57V - 2x1GB TeamGroup DDR667 @ 882 4-4-4-10 - Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4 - Water
33. IluvIntel - 12.98 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3906.10mhz - Conroe L626 E6600 @ 3906.1Mhz - Thermalright Ultra 120
34. Lestat - 12.98 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3996mhz - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 ES @ 3996Mhz - 2*1GB OCZ PC2-6400
35. Amiteriver - 13.18 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3896mhz - E6600 OEM @ 3896MHz, 1.21V h2o - Patriot 8000 @ 432MHz 4-4-4-12, 2.25V - DI
36. Topher - 13.2 sec - Intel Core 2 QX6700 (2.4Ghz)@3900mhz - no description
37. harshal - 13.3 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3825.90mhz - Conroe L626A E6600 @ 3825.9Mhz - TT BT
38. Makubex_GB - 13.3 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3897mhz - Intel E6600 @ 3897MHz (watercooled) - Asus P5B-Deluxe - 2x1GB Super Talent PC2-6400 @ 433MHz 4-4-3-12 2.35v
39. illuminati-hwt - 13.31 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3822mhz - no description
40. oktavius - 13.56 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3717mhz - Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3717 MHz 1,65V - 2x1GB G.Skill DDR2-667 @ 826 5,4,4,12 - Asus P5W DH - Water cooling system
41. Supa-Fly - 13.65 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3750mhz - E6600 (Week 31) @ 3.750 Ghz, MCH Volt bump @ 1.725v, Corsair TWIN2X2048-5400C4 @ 833.4 Mhz, 2.2 Volts 4-4-4-8, Radeon X1800 XT 512mb @ 693 Core & 792 Mem, ANTEC TruePower Trio 650 Watt
42. fearthisneo - 13.67 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3800mhz - E6600 @ 3800MHz - 2x1GBHZ G.Skill PC2-6400 @ 1000MHz 5-5-5-5 - EVGA 680i
43. Spacemaster - 13.69 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3786mhz - Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3786 MHz - 2x256MB Kingmax DDR2-533Mhz @ 315MHz 4-4-4-5 - Intel D975XBX BAD AXE- Water cooling system
44. Chri$ch - 13.8 sec - processor unknown - Core 2 Quad Q6400 @ 3720MHz - 2x512MB A-Data PC2-6400 @ 581MHz 5-5-5-12 - Asus P5B Deluxe - Water cooling system
45. Xevipiu - 13.84 sec - Intel Core 2 E6650 (2.33Ghz)@3684mhz - Intel Core 2 T7600 (2.33Ghz)@3684mhz 263x14 1,53V - 2x512 Corsair5400UL 3:5 438 4-3-2-1
46. Cordovader - 13.89 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@4156mhz - E6400 @ 4156MHz SS - 2x1gb Cellshock 8000C4 @ 1038Mhz @ 4-4-3-4
47. menlatin - 13.98 sec - Intel Core 2 Q6600 (2.4Ghz)@4162mhz - Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 4162MHz , Asus P5B Watercooled cpu + chipset, 8c ambient, patriot 5300 520mhz 4-4-3-4 2.45v
48. gjwild - 14.06 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3600mhz - Conroe E6600 @ 3600MHz 1GB GSkill @ 800MHz 4-4-4-12
49. stummerwinter - 14.64 sec - Intel Core 2 T7400 (2.16Ghz)@3511mhz - Core Duo T7400ES @ 3511 MHz - Syncmax extreme PC6400 @ 450 MHz 4-4-4-12 - DICE
50. Moonman - 14.83 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3811mhz - Conroe E6400 @ 3811MHz (BOX cooled) 2x512 @ 952MHz 4-4-4-12
51. koensa - 15.16 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3760mhz - Conroe E6400 @3760MHz on water - 2GB Cellshock PC6400 @940MHz 4-4-4-18
52. Deschutes - 15.31 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3848mhz - Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 3848 MHz - 2x1GB G.Skill DDR2-800 @ 481 4,4,4,9 - Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 - Water cooling system
53. vintage_guitar - 15.53 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3720mhz - Conroe E6400 @ 3720MHz 2GB GSKILL @ 930MHz 4-4-4-9
54. Tripnotik - 15.84 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3760mhz - C2D E6400 @ 3760 MHz 1,45V @ Zalman 9500AT - 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 CL5 PC2-6400 @ 940 Mhz 5-5-5-12 2.2v - ASUS P5B Dlx
55. CaNNibaL - 16.42 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz)@3560.80mhz - Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 3560.80 MHz 1.585V - 2x1GB CellShock PC6400 @ 4-4-4-4 @ 2,15v - Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi AP - ThermalTake TR2
56. SKiLL3D - 16.73 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3007mhz - Conroe E6600@3007MHz - Asus P5W DH - 2GB G.SKiLL HZ PC800@835-CL4-4-4-12
57. scoobysix - 16.92 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3005mhz - E6600 @ 3005MHz , P5B DeluxeWifi, G.Skill 2GB-HZ 4-4-4-12
58. snatchmonkey - 17.33 sec - Pentium M Duo Core T2600 (2.16Ghz)@3511mhz - Core Duo T2600ES @ 3511Mhz, Vapochill LS, 1GB Ballistix PC5300 @ DDR900 4-3-2-8
59. thorgal - 17.34 sec - Intel Core 2 T7400 (2.16Ghz)@2938mhz - Intel Merom T7400ES @ 2938Mhz - 2*512MB OCZ PC6400 (D9) - TT Big Typhoon - 1.400vcore
60. sierra_bound - 17.39 sec - Pentium M Duo Core T2600 (2.16Ghz)@3472mhz - Core Duo T2600 @ 3472Mhz, AOpen i975Xa-YDG, Vapochill, Corsair 8000UL @ 4-3-2-4
61. Darklord - 17.5 sec - Intel Core 2 E6600 (2.4Ghz)@3069mhz - Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3069 MHz - 2x1024 MB Crucial Ballistix PC2 8000 CL5 -MSI 975X Platinum V2.0 - Stock Air Cooler
62. Philosophy - 17.69 sec - Intel Core 2 E6300 (1.86Ghz)@3220mhz - Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 3220 MHz stock cooled and volts - TeamGroup DDR667 @ 920 4-4-3-9 - Gigabyte DS3
63. x3ro - 17.78 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz) - E6400 @ 3200Mh .:. Asus P5B .:. 2x1GB GeIL DDR2-800 CL3
64. jettasin00 - 17.98 sec - Intel Core 2 E6400 (2.13Ghz) - e6400@3200, 7900gs 610/810
65. Tom Holck - 17.99 sec - Pentium 4 670@7210mhz - P4.670 3.80Ghz @ 7.21Ghz
66. Vitoco18 - 18.19 sec - Intel Core 2 E6300 (1.86Ghz)@3248mhz - E6300@3248 Mhz, Gigabyte 965P-DS3, TA pc-5300 @928 1x512, stock cooler box
67. hipro5 - 18.67 sec - Pentium M 780@4100mhz - Dothan 780ES @ 132.
compare those scores....and tell me which processor is better at floating point calculations and prefetching performance.
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:12 PM   #25
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ummm, PB, you should stop before you might get burned even worse.
oh wait, its not possible.

Chew on this: Unlike NetBurst-based processors, such as the Pentium 4 and Pentium D, Core 2 does not stress designs based on extremely high clock speeds but rather improvements in the processor's usage of both available clock cycles and power. This translates into more efficient decoding stages, execution units, caches, and buses, as well as many other factors. The CPU-family may also have more than one core on a single chip. The power consumption of these processors is much lower than the Pentium desktop line of products. With a TDP of only 65 W, Core 2 features a significantly reduced power consumption compared to its predecessor desktop chip, the Pentium 4 Prescott with a TDP of 130 W.

Quote from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2_Duo
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Old 01-14-2007, 11:23 PM   #26
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i have been building and modding gaming pc's over 18 years,yes you can believe all the benchmarks you want,and buy all the core 2 cpu's you want,But i build pc's and highend gaming towers and oc them to run cool and fast,Is that why i get many people asking me to build their PC,Hey I have started to make and modify my own water cooling units.they are junk to Oh and i dont drink,i didnt have to bring the cpu back,i just put it back on my shelf.
You returned a Core 2 Duo for a Pentium D...

I would rather trust Anandtech, X-Bit Labs and Tom's Hardware over your opinion, regardless of your so-called "18 years of experience."

Becides, if you're so persistent in the fact that Pentium D's are superior to Core 2 Duos, where is the proof?

OH WAIT! You don't have any!

Also, before you mindlessly believe obsolete hardware is in fact superior, go and learn some grammar. Jesus...everything is like mashed together. There are spaces that go after commas, got it?

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You know so much explain.....core 2 runs cooler thats all you hear on forums,less juice to run,and they dont.
Pretty funny considering I haven't seen you post ANYTHING that explains why the Pentium D is superior. How pathetic.

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pound your P-D into the ground complex instruction execution ,what ever you say master PC technician.
Are you sure you have "18 years of experience?" Judging from your post, I SERIOUSLY have a hard time believing that is the truth. You sound more like some 13 year old that hasn't been through puberty, naively spreading your fanboy comments everywhere.

EDIT>>> Hell, Ownage's single post of SuperPi scores already show that Core 2 Duos are in fact superior. Pwnt.
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hey guys, don't be so mean on him, you know "his customers said" lmao I just can't stop laughing while reading this thread
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Haha, yup. Good entertainment.
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Nah, just let him show everyone his stupidity. It's rather entertaining and hilarious.
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