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Old 07-01-2005, 07:25 AM   #11
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hey japan's a great place to go looking for parts I have a friend there it's like christmas every time he gets back. So if you can make a japanese friend and then have mim brin gyou parts. But what do you do you want to do with this comp and what's your budget.
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well the purpose of this system will be gaming, and my budget is mayb around $550, and im in the farm country part of japan, but theres still city right outside of the base.
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Right, then AMD it is, which you've already decided These will be better for games than Intel, oh and if you want to multitask games... you'd have to have a top system running on SLI with two video cards adn possibly a dual cpu too to play both games

Anyway, your budget is $550 and you could get some good parts with this and luckily AMD is cheaper to go with than Intel, so lets check.

First of all, a great AMD Athlon 64 3000+ would do you nicely (runs at 2.8ghz in AMD terms, but would be just as good as a 3.0ghz Intel Pentium 4) running on a 939 socket Venice core, and so needing a 939 socket motherboard.

Look here for a bit on it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103537

This would cost you $146 from here if you could

Next the memory, and 512mb should be enough for now, but because of the motherboard choice being open to you, the memory speed the RAM speed you will have to buy will of course differ, though most mainstream ones use PC3200 speed RAM or in other words DDR400.

Now the Video card. I'd personally go for Nvidia since the cards support the latest Direct X version for better effects (9c, compared with ATI's version 9? I think). Anyhow, I just like them better Though, I have an ATI card and so not biased by the way...

A good Nvidia card would be a 6600GT running on a PCI-Express motherboard (so take note of that since all new cards will support this in the future):

Heres an example of a PCI-E version:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150098

This would cost you $169.00 and would play all the latest games in a standard resolution (lower than 1600x1200) and at high settings

So far, without the motherboard and memory, there is a total of $315. So I'm sure with the remaining $235 you can get some great memory, and a good motherboard, since this would really be up to personal choice, i.e do you want onboard sound, firewire for connecting dv cameras, etc.

I hope this helps

EDIT: If you can afford a standard Nvidia 6800 after making the motherboard and memory disicions costing about $256 then go for it, as it would power for longer of course than the 6600GT would:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127173

I tried looking for a 6800GT, but I know for sure that would be out of your budget range without really getting bad memory and motherboard.
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Do you, by any chance, play Halo? I think I saw a guy named Duality in a game or two.

What Kage said, except I think you could actually get a 1GB(2x512MB) DDR RAM, but that'd be pushing the limit of your budget.

Err, whoops, I kind of said the same thing as you, Kage.
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hehe yep, and you didn't edit either, so you must have known what I said before you typed, so don't say whoops as it wasn't a mistake I think I made some good dicisons though
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wow...thanks

Anyway Duality, I think we've narowed down the selections, and after you have confirmed these parts as all well and good, you could start looking for motherboards, and then RAM. If you need anymore help, give us a bell ... or a cymbal... whichever
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first of all, thanks a lot for the help guys. and no i dont play halo for pc, i do play world of warcraft and counter-strike (1.6 for life :P)

i think ill go with the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice core, just for a little bit of an upgrade from what you said

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535

for video card i was thinking something mayb a lil cheaper like this

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/362...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

i dont really have a preference on ATI vs. nvidia so mayb you could recommend something cheaper by nvidia

memory i have no clue whats good so i just chose one of the 1GB sticks, and is there any difference between getting the 1GB (2x512MB) and dual channeling versus getting one stick other than it takes up fewer slots.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141307

for a MOBO i heard ASUS was good but really i have no clue lol so i just figured this one would do

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131510

let me know what you guys think
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:45 AM   #19
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Personally, I wouldn't care about the extra 200mhz boost in the 3200+ department, and get yourself a better video card since you are a gamer (you can always overclock to push it once you learn how, to get it past default speeds anyway)

I say this, because I have the 9800Pro, and even though it runs games at high settings (at the mo), it only runs them at just about playable rates (30fps) and so, i would really go with the 6600GT mentioned, honestly

Plus, i'd go for PCI-E to make it possible to overgrade to better cards in the future, since motherboards only support one format, AGP (that card you chose) or PCI-E, and so I wouldn't go for anything different than PCI-E now (i'm stuck with AGP for a while...)

Though the motherboard is alright, it is AGP also, so you'll need to get a PCI-E 16x board, and that memory is fine (1x 1gig) though personally, i'd get it in 2x 512 so you can get that dual channel potential to get an extra boost if you get supporting hardware. Okay?
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thanks for the tip on the video card, i think ill go with what you mentioned, so now i need to find a PCI-E compatible MOBO, and since i guess ill gow with the AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Core then could u recommend a MOBO i could easily overclock with, because im a beginner with that stuff. and what did you mean by getting the extra power boost of dual channeled ram?, do you just need certain software to adjust the output?
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