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Old 08-14-2008, 09:11 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I'm new here.
I am currently wanting to build myself a computer. Because i fried my old one, i no longer have a source for the internet (currently on parents PC). My budget is around $1000 CND, so I'm kind of limited to resources and performance. Aswell as the limitations, I'm $300 CND over budget. Anyways, here is a list of the parts I was thinking about. Please improve upon them if possible, without raising the price too much.

CPU - $189.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...?EdpNo=2643933
PSU - $73.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...371&CatId=1079
Case - $73.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...84989&CatId=32
MOBO - $195.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...73170&CatId=13
Graphics - $129.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...454&CatId=3585
Optical Drive - $29.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...324670&CatId=4
Cooling - CPU Fan (none included with CPU) - $24.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...432&CatId=1826
80mm Fan - $3.70 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...7328&CatId=494
HDD's - OS HDD - $48.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...318028&CatId=8
Media HDD (x2) - $69.99 ($139.98 for both) - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...3621&CatId=139
RAM - $94.99 - http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...04049&csid=_21

Total Cost = $1006.58

If Possible, i would like to lower my price to around $800 - $1000 CND so i can purchase the rig ASAP.


Thanks in advance, Johanster

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here

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...211&CatId=1969

better performance and cheaper

and this instead of the unnecessary water cooling

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...2946&CatId=493

water cooling really isn't worth it

that shaves off ~130$
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here

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...211&CatId=1969

better performance and cheaper
not completely true.

if you're mainly gaming, then yes th E8400 is the way to go. however if you're doing other things than gaming, shoot for a quad. they're affordable enough and you'll be very future proof as games being released next year will be multi-threaded.

if you plan to overclock, you can get the Q6600 to 3Ghz and essentially have the same performance as a stock E8400 for games that only utilize dual core. however, i havent seen a game that even fully utilizes a processor such as that except UT3.

go quad.
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but then theres also this for only 7 bucks more
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...042&CatId=1558

so with that u shave off about ~115$ (thermal paste 5$ )


yeah thats true bullzi but im assuming "Gaming" not multi tasking. its just that alot of people new to computer think that "OMG OMG ZOMG 4 cores has to be better!!!" isn't always true. considering games dont use all 4 cores yet.
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but then theres also this for only 7 bucks more
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...042&CatId=1558

so with that u shave off about ~115$ (thermal paste 5$ )


yeah thats true bullzi but im assuming "Gaming" not multi tasking. its just that alot of people new to computer think that "OMG OMG ZOMG 4 cores has to be better!!!" isn't always true. considering games dont use all 4 cores yet.
or this for only another $16 on top of that...

damn, I wish I hadn't bought my 4850 yet

don't know if they ship to Canada though...
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but then theres also this for only 7 bucks more
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...042&CatId=1558

so with that u shave off about ~115$ (thermal paste 5$ )


yeah thats true bullzi but im assuming "Gaming" not multi tasking. its just that alot of people new to computer think that "OMG OMG ZOMG 4 cores has to be better!!!" isn't always true. considering games dont use all 4 cores yet.
Is the 9600 not better than that? or do they give equal preformance.

And i am going to get the Q660 just because im going into highschool, so i wont only be gaming, and the 4 cores will probably give me better preformance than just 2. If i am wrong, please correct me

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or this for only another $16 on top of that...

damn, I wish I hadn't bought my 4850 yet

don't know if they ship to Canada though...
Im guessing this would be a better buy than the 9600, correct? Also that graphics card is ATI based, meaning it uses Crossfire, and my system is based around nVidea's SLI Capabilities. Would SLI still include CrossFire support?
I will look into if they ship to canada

EDIT: Just checked their website, and they do ship internationally, so i think i will go for this card, unless Crossfire does not work with SLI certified PSU's, Mobo's and the such.
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Is the 9600 not better than that? or do they give equal preformance.

And i am going to get the Q660 just because im going into highschool, so i wont only be gaming, and the 4 cores will probably give me better preformance than just 2. If i am wrong, please correct me

Im guessing this would be a better buy than the 9600, correct? Also that graphics card is ATI based, meaning it uses Crossfire, and my system is based around nVidea's SLI Capabilities. Would SLI still include CrossFire support?
I will look into if they ship to canada

EDIT: Just checked their website, and they do ship internationally, so i think i will go for this card, unless Crossfire does not work with SLI certified PSU's, Mobo's and the such.
the Q6600 will futureproof your build, but all 4 cores won't really be utilized any time soon considering what you're gonna be using it for, anything school related will not even need a dual core, let alone 4 cores...

your system only utilizes crossfire or SLI if you buy 2 cards and link them together with a crossfire/SLI bridge, a single ATI or nVidia card will work on any motherboard that supports the PCIe interface, whether it's on it's native chipset (ATI:Intel, nVidia:nVidia) or not, and that card (the HD4870) will handle any game you throw at it flawlessly (except Crysis, but nothing handles Crysis flawlessly) at high resolutions and is great for HD content as well (videos, etc.), the HD4870 is usually anywhere around $250-$300, so under $200 after MIR is a great deal...

ATI's native chipset is Intel, wow, there's just something fundamentally wrong with that, but it gives great performance...
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Alright, i guess the HD4870 is a better buy than the 9600, so I'm going to update my list, and figure out more ways to reduce the price. The only think i am worried about, is if i chose to Crossfire the HD4870. If so, i will have to buy nVidea SLI cards. Whatever.. seems like this card will last a while.


EDIT: Damn it. Have to wait a little bit till the HD 4860 gets back in stock...
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Alright, i guess the HD4870 is a better buy than the 9600, so I'm going to update my list, and figure out more ways to reduce the price. The only think i am worried about, is if i chose to Crossfire the HD4870. If so, i will have to buy nVidea SLI cards. Whatever.. seems like this card will last a while.


EDIT: Damn it. Have to wait a little bit till the HD 4860 gets back in stock...
yeah, with a deal like that, if ya snooze, ya lose, those types of deals are only good for a day or two (if that)...

here are benchmarks comparing the various cards, the 4870 doubles the fps of the 9600GT in COD4 and Crysis at just about every resolution...

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I still need to shave off a little money, is there a PSU that will
-keep preformance for high end gaming
-lower price of the one i have up there

Im swiching out my 9600 for the 8800 GT, but i will be adding money to the total amount. Please, if any way possible, help me reduce the price, because im not to great with chosing parts.
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