Go Back   Computer Forums > General Computing > Hardware
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-06-2004, 09:41 PM   #31
Golden Master
 
athlon64fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,153
Send a message via MSN to athlon64fx
Default Re: The Best?

look, for me multitasking with the following apps open 90% of the time:

windows media player 10.0
bearshare 4.6.0
microsoft frontpage 2003 pro
Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR
Photoshop 7.0
Fellowes CD labelmaker software
Outlook 2003
MSN messenger 6.2
2 or 3 explorer windows
and sometimes Fireworks MX 2004 too and Roxio CD creator 6

and not too mention only 256MB of system RAM non overclocking only @ 200Mhz due to my MotherBoards limitations

all open at the same time using them equally with none idle for more that 10 mins at a time with my AMD Athlon XP 3200+ at an ACCEPTABLE speed with only max 3 secs of latency between apps is very very excellent!!! I tried the same on an intel HT @ 3.2 Ghz with 512 megs/ram and it struggled and lots of the time made too much heat and shut the pc down or BIOS beep warning. that was tested on a custom machine with a "extreme" cooler!

Intel's major problem is the overheating. thier cores arent designed properly. not enough dissipation and even spread.

and also the HT technology isnt perfected and it is often buggy and results in way higher latency then without HT technology enabled.

and even wothout HT Intels still struggle with everyday apps. and games often slow to a crawl at ABS MAX setting on games no matter hoe good the graphics card is.
__________________

athlon64fx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 10:26 PM   #32
In Runtime
 
gibant1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 477
Default Re: The Best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dell_ate_my_dog
look, for me multitasking with the following apps open 90% of the time:

windows media player 10.0
bearshare 4.6.0
microsoft frontpage 2003 pro
Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR
Photoshop 7.0
Fellowes CD labelmaker software
Outlook 2003
MSN messenger 6.2
2 or 3 explorer windows
and sometimes Fireworks MX 2004 too and Roxio CD creator 6

and not too mention only 256MB of system RAM non overclocking only @ 200Mhz due to my MotherBoards limitations

all open at the same time using them equally with none idle for more that 10 mins at a time with my AMD Athlon XP 3200+ at an ACCEPTABLE speed with only max 3 secs of latency between apps is very very excellent!!! I tried the same on an intel HT @ 3.2 Ghz with 512 megs/ram and it struggled and lots of the time made too much heat and shut the pc down or BIOS beep warning. that was tested on a custom machine with a "extreme" cooler!

Intel's major problem is the overheating. thier cores arent designed properly. not enough dissipation and even spread.

and also the HT technology isnt perfected and it is often buggy and results in way higher latency then without HT technology enabled.

and even wothout HT Intels still struggle with everyday apps. and games often slow to a crawl at ABS MAX setting on games no matter hoe good the graphics card is.

The fact that you say yours runs well with 256Mb ram in says you've never seen a fast machine. If I had a 10Ghz AMD or Intel it would be fast with 256Mb in.

My P4 doesn't crash, and I mean that. It doesn't. I've NEVER been able to say that about any of my AMD's. As for "struggling with everday apps and slowing to a crawl on games"

My machine runs Doom 3 1280x1024 on Ultra settings @ 87Fps

Farcry runs on max settings @ 117.9Fps

NO AMD HAS BEATEN IT. What does your 256Mb peice of .... er er computer get?

It's an old benchmark I did, I've overclocked higher now but it will give you an idea. Bear in mind Aquamark is a gaming benchmark. For serious benchmarks go to www.custompc.co.uk , beat the office pc comp. Highest single processored AMD is around 70th fastest.
__________________

__________________
Intel Core2Duo 6400 @ 3.4Ghz
4GB Geil 6400 Ultra
3 x 500 Gb Samsung HD
EVGA 8800 Ultra OC
Xifi Fatal1ty
Dell 3007WFP-HC
gibant1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 10:56 PM   #33
entity512
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Best?

dont be a snob. AMD's do hecka lot better for the money and no heat! Simple as that. If you want that little bit extra and waste money get intel.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 11:00 PM   #34
Golden Master
 
athlon64fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,153
Send a message via MSN to athlon64fx
Default Re: The Best?

he he camers.

I have a fast system but not much ram!!! it was fine for running a game or a few apps. but now I run more apps as i get them and I outgrew the 256! so im getting a gig soon! then itll really flame and kick teh utter crap outta any intel ive had!!! ha ha!
athlon64fx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #35
In Runtime
 
gibant1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 477
Default Re: The Best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by camers
dont be a snob. AMD's do hecka lot better for the money and no heat! Simple as that. If you want that little bit extra and waste money get intel.

Most of my Folding machines are AMD's that have started to run REALLY HOT. My sister 2000+ is running @ 60c and failing, My mate Pauls 3200+ is @ 64c and starting to fail. I have done probably 20 or so in the last month that have suddenly raised their temps by 10c and began to fail.

My Intel is @ -57c where's all this heat your talking about.
__________________
Intel Core2Duo 6400 @ 3.4Ghz
4GB Geil 6400 Ultra
3 x 500 Gb Samsung HD
EVGA 8800 Ultra OC
Xifi Fatal1ty
Dell 3007WFP-HC
gibant1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 10:38 AM   #36
entity512
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Best?

dude.....those temps are kinda fake! A 2000+ wouldnt run hotter than 40. I dont know what kinda cramped cases/bad techniques you build with..but jeez (also, did you even update the bios??!)
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:33 PM   #37
In Runtime
 
gibant1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 477
Default Re: The Best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by camers
dude.....those temps are kinda fake! A 2000+ wouldnt run hotter than 40. I dont know what kinda cramped cases/bad techniques you build with..but jeez (also, did you even update the bios??!)

The temps have risen, not started at the temps mentioned. My sisters had been stable for 2 years maybe about 38c then over the last month it's around 58c, it's not the sensor and the machine is behaving strangely. I've been building machines longer than you have lived. I know when components are beginning to fail and allot of AMD's have started to go down. FACT.

If you can remember that far back when the AMD 2000+ was a good CPU. Airflow through cases wasn't an issue. Cases didn't come with fans at the front etc. So it's not that is it my little, inexperienced friend.
__________________
Intel Core2Duo 6400 @ 3.4Ghz
4GB Geil 6400 Ultra
3 x 500 Gb Samsung HD
EVGA 8800 Ultra OC
Xifi Fatal1ty
Dell 3007WFP-HC
gibant1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:37 PM   #38
entity512
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Best?

Man your a loser. Can imagine you being those bitchy tech support guys on the phone..anyway. And you have experience with celerons running that long compaired to athlons??? Well things such as thermal pads getting old/grease etc and her fan speeds getting worse etc.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:40 PM   #39
Golden Master
 
athlon64fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,153
Send a message via MSN to athlon64fx
Default Re: The Best?

tell me about it three systems adam was building at dell (HT P4's) were overheating so bad the cpu melted onto the heat sinks!!!!
athlon64fx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 04:45 PM   #40
Golden Master
 
athlon64fx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,153
Send a message via MSN to athlon64fx
Default Re: The Best?

0 degrees C is frozen water and 100 deg. C is boiling!!!
__________________

athlon64fx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0