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Old 02-10-2005, 09:08 PM   #111
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You said 'just like Intel are now a Niche CPU developer'? Insinuating a connection between ATi and Intel? Intel's CPUs fill more than half the PCs in the World, probably somewhere like two thirds - most of them low-range and mid-range, some that are 6, 7 years old, people still use them because they go. Its easy for Intel too loose dominance - especially when AMD bring out something Intel set aside as superfluous but it has happened before and will happen again as far as I know companies (inlcuding Microsoft) it has happened to are not dead because of it now. Even if they are dead because of something else. The challenge is getting Intel below 50%. This certainly won't happen before Intel's Dual Cores, of which there will be 11 come out.

I'm sure you will continue to believe in Marketing over sense even if Intel win back dominance with their Dual Cores... but in the end for the past 20 Years the Computer Industry has been dominated by only four people. IBM, Apple, Intel, and Microsoft. In the end, only Intel and Microsoft are of much use anymore beyond experience but with the resources they can come up with its going to take a long time; and more than AMD's cheap processors to break Intel.
Wishful thinking at best. For the first thing, I'm going to make a few corrections. Intel is not sufficiently addressing the mid-range. I never said it was exclusively upper range. And don't even try to argue with me when it comes to the market, because that is something I know a significant amount more then you. Your precious Intel will continue its current decline.

Intel won't win back dominance I think based on present market strategy, and announced strategy. I just don't see any promise there. Only Intel are of much use anymore beyond experience? What a load of crap. You sir need to check your facts. You just skew everything and then you look like an idiot.

You just can't f--king acknowledge the fact that AMD Is coming out with better then Intel.. that's your own issue. You want to play dumb, fine by me.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:11 PM   #112
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THIS IS NOT AND AMD vs INTEL THREAD! IF YOU CANNOT POST ABOUT ATi AMR, then DO NOT POST! Now back on topic:

ATi AMR apparently is going to use silicon on the mobo interconnect and will use one 16X PCIe slot, and another 4X PCIe slot to provide maximum performance from the main card while using the second card to be like a turbocharger for the main card. Should be interesting.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:25 PM   #113
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Thats freakin awesome TURBO charged computer graphics lol that will own nvidia.. !!!
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:25 PM   #114
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I gave him his stupid source, and he better stop "hunting" me down and attacking the validity of my posts.
I have not seen him doing this. He is attacking the point of your posts. You should not reply if you don't think you can handle that kind of debate. As I have said - it is the dance.

For instance, it would appear, especially in that post, that Giancarlo is personally attacking me and the validity of my posts. While he is I do not mind because it is the dance. In fact; he not only does that he also swears at me. If I thought I was useless, that my point wasn't right; or cared what people thought of me when I reply, I would probably break down over such an attack from him. The same for him of me. I know he's going to respond, that's the point. You need to get over your inferiority complex if you're going to try debating with people like Tibs.
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Wishful thinking at best. For the first thing, I'm going to make a few corrections. Intel is not sufficiently addressing the mid-range. I never said it was exclusively upper range. And don't even try to argue with me when it comes to the market, because that is something I know a significant amount more then you. Your precious Intel will continue its current decline.
This is based on what? Previous estimates? Market trends? Other such hoo-har?... The same theories would have had AMD dead years ago. They can only theorise five or six months into the future if nothing new is being released in that time.
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Intel won't win back dominance I think based on present market strategy, and announced strategy. I just don't see any promise there. Only Intel are of much use anymore beyond experience? What a load of crap. You sir need to check your facts. You just skew everything and then you look like an idiot.
Nah; I said only Microsoft and Intel are of much use now, beyond experience refering to the experience IBM give the Computing World, and Apple have. Of the four from the olden-days, its true. IBM and Apple aren't of much use. Intel has weathered worse problems than AMD.
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You just can't f--king acknowledge the fact that AMD Is coming out with better then Intel.. that's your own issue. You want to play dumb, fine by me.
Basically its not. Its coming out with what people want to hear. Intel's EM64T is the same as AMD 64 Technology. Short of heat and 64-bitting the Intels are as good if not better than AMDs. Of course this cannot be constituted for - as they should be as good without exceptions. That is what we shall see with the new release. The facts already shown to us by our friends at CNet and other less useful sites show us this.

I do not play dumb - I play unibiased personal opinions, not based on what other people think, what benchmarks tell me or what AMD or Intel for that matter Feeds me. Marketting is for the weak who cannot make software or hardware good enough to use without it.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:27 PM   #115
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THIS IS NOT AND AMD vs INTEL THREAD! IF YOU CANNOT POST ABOUT ATi AMR, then DO NOT POST! Now back on topic:

ATi AMR apparently is going to use silicon on the mobo interconnect and will use one 16X PCIe slot, and another 4X PCIe slot to provide maximum performance from the main card while using the second card to be like a turbocharger for the main card. Should be interesting.

Haha; it will probably involve specialised motherboards.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:29 PM   #116
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This is based on what? Previous estimates? Market trends? Other such hoo-har?... The same theories would have had AMD dead years ago. They can only theorise five or six months into the future if nothing new is being released in that time.Nah; I said only Microsoft and Intel are of much use now, beyond experience refering to the experience IBM give the Computing World, and Apple have. Of the four from the olden-days, its true. IBM and Apple aren't of much use. Intel has weathered worse problems than AMD.Basically its not. Its coming out with what people want to hear. Intel's EM64T is the same as AMD 64 Technology. Short of heat and 64-bitting the Intels are as good if not better than AMDs. Of course this cannot be constituted for - as they should be as good without exceptions. That is what we shall see with the new release. The facts already shown to us by our friends at CNet and other less useful sites show us this.

I do not play dumb - I play unibiased personal opinions, not based on what other people think, what benchmarks tell me or what AMD or Intel for that matter Feeds me. Marketting is for the weak who cannot make software or hardware good enough to use without it.[/color]
You always play dumb. Your opinions are wrong and are not based on facts. If you cannot begin to accept the facts, then that isn't much useful to real life application. Again, there were no market indications showing AMD would die years ago.. in fact AMD was beginning to get a grasp on the market and consolidate itself. You obviously know nothing about economics or the market, so I will listen to AMD ZEN on this one and not comment on this matter any further.
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Here we go again with people and ATI. Sheesh... They are a niche card developer. Just like Intel is now a niche CPU developer. All they do is have a niche in a market that makes up like 2-3% of the market. They focus not on the 50-60% of the mid-range market.

And your signature is stupid, LK. Especially that second sentece. Death to AMD? What are you? A fool?
Actually Intel has more stock shares than AMD does. AMD has always been known to be the "underdog" company. A very good underdog company, though.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:23 PM   #118
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Thx Gian. Lord K, dont post about Intel or AMD in here again, this is about ATi!!!!! AMR is the subject, not HT, Hyperthreading, FSB, etc etc! NO MORE. THx again Gian for agreeing not to post anymore about that in here. I really appreciate it.
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Eh. Screw ATI. That's all I have to say.
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:08 PM   #120
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And you had to come in here and post that why? This is about AMR, not AMD vs Intel, or hate ATi thread. Talk about the subject.
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