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Old 06-21-2010, 01:27 PM   #1
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Default ATI or Nvidia?

Which do you prefer? I'm wondering since I don't really know which way I should go.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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i personally prefer nvidia over ATI but the 5xxx series is a badass series of cards just did a build for my friend with a 5770 and it is an amazing card
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:52 PM   #3
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For gaming, I'd say ATI.
For any 3D work rendering work, Nvidia. Cuda is really starting to take form around 3D packages, with some renderers even using it's power to take all load from the CPU
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Huh, interesting. Is there any reason to say ATI for gaming other than nVidia is more geared towards rendering?
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ATI are at the moment producing better competitively priced products, and I believe run slightly more energy efficient, which does matter when it comes to a PC with a high wattage power supply.
I may be wrong, but I think ATI have the upper hand at the minute on the fastest card too?

I may have to go for a Nvidia card next though for my 3D based work, unless something starts using ATI's tech.

Nvidia has the upper hand in some technology that could be used a lot more later; thats for sure.
CUDA could be used for a lot of things once its potential is unlocked fully.
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Whichever one is cheaper at the same spec.
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I had to learn the hard way that ATI doesn't look that great when it comes to video watching, especially in HD, the quality is much better on my old Nvida 8500gt. But yes for gaming I think ATI is bomb and for $155 my HD 5770 gave me 54 fps in GTA IV, I'm very happy.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:55 PM   #8
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What about nVidia PhysX? Is there an equivalent type of thing for ATI? And what about those games that have the "Runs best on nVidia" thing, is that real?

By no means do I know as much as you guys, so if this sounds stupid, there's my excuse.
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Nvidia pays to get their name put in games, and in some rare instances games are actually optimized to run better on nvidia cards, but not too often. Physx is a nice little graphical demo thing, but will drop your framerate significantly and isn't always feasible for running games well
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Kage offers good advice. The ATI HD5xxx series has the best card out right now (the HD5970 Hemlock) when it comes to gaming and multimedia. However, if you plan on doing any rendering/modeling, the ATI Fire lineup doesn't come close to nVidia's Quadro FX.
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I had to learn the hard way that ATI doesn't look that great when it comes to video watching, especially in HD, the quality is much better on my old Nvida 8500gt. But yes for gaming I think ATI is bomb and for $155 my HD 5770 gave me 54 fps in GTA IV, I'm very happy.
Bullshit.

my 4850 destroys Blu Ray movies on my 1080p Vizio.
ATI HD cards are called HD for a reason.
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do u have an nvidia card to compare it to? as others have said CUDA is a much better quality video renderer? i guess you would call it that? My 8500gt nvidia card video quality looked much much better and less grainy than my 5770, many others have had issues with video quality on radeon cards also
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do u have an nvidia card to compare it to? as others have said CUDA is a much better quality video renderer? i guess you would call it that? My 8500gt nvidia card video quality looked much much better and less grainy than my 5770, many others have had issues with video quality on radeon cards also
GPU-based Video converting <> playback quality
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say what? lol
"It is pretty well-known that CUDA is much more efficient at decoding video." --Foothead
I guess I was looking for decoding and not rendering? I haven't found a way to improve the quality of video on my 5770 yet tho. If there is a way let me know
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CUDA owns at hardware video decoding. It doesn't mean that ATI cards look bad, but nvidia just looks better. My 9600 GSO destroys my 4850 x2 at blu-Ray playback.

For gaming, ATI is king right now. The 5xxx cards win in price/performance by a longshot over the GTX 4xx. They also run cooler and use far less power. Nvidia does have 3Dvision and physx though, but most people will never fork out the money for 3Dvision, and physX destroys your framerate without a dedicated PPU.

So OP, what are you doing on your computer, and what is your budget?
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Default Re: ATI or Nvidia?

This is really kinda a personal preference war. From what my peers say:

ATI is cheaper but it overheats more.

NVIDIA is a little more expensive and more reliable.

I don't agree with either sides of this, I have used both manufacturers, and I think they've done a great job.
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This is really kinda a personal preference war. From what my peers say:

ATI is cheaper but it overheats more.

NVIDIA is a little more expensive and more reliable.

I don't agree with either sides of this, I have used both manufacturers, and I think they've done a great job.
get a vapor X lol
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Who said ATI overheats more? I have never seen an ATI card overheat beyond its thermal threshold at stock vGPU. Same goes for nVIDIA, but some of them can get close.

Right now, the HD 5000s are MUCH cooler than GTX 400s.

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get a vapor X lol
VaporX is kind of a scam for some cards. I know for sure that the 5770 vaporX actually runs hotter than a reference v2 model. The 5750 version has the same cooler, so I can only assume the same goes for it.

Reference models are fine. The only time ATI really screwed up the cooler was on the reference 4850, but those disappeared very quickly.
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Foothead, my budget isn't very high, so I'm being frugal with all the parts, except the graphics card. I decided on a Sapphire Toxic 5850
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-889-_-Product)

On an unrelated note, can you have a RAID 0 array, but then add a HDD and make it RAID 1?
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