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Old 11-17-2005, 12:26 AM   #1
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AMD confirms quad core chip in 2007. It will originally be a quad core server processor but the design will gradually be carried over to desktops and notebooks!!!! Yeah, baby. The cores will be linked by a revised type of HyperTransport bus and will use the M2 and F sockets expected to arrive early next year. Intel in anticipation of AMDs plan, also plans to introduce a quad-core Xeon in the first half of 2007. Unbelievable. CPU wars continue...
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:21 AM   #2
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If I get this system, i will install Windows 3.1 lol

God...this PC is way to powerful now!
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:04 AM   #3
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I hope the OS can keep up with this. Yeah, here we are talking about how nice dual cores are when quad cores is already a reality. Can you imagine how fast it would be? Imagine doing a lot of heavy duty stuff all at the same time. No slowdown or bottleneck. Each core dedicated to doing it's own thing, theoritically. One thing for sure, you will see Windows become tons more stable with this technology.
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"The server version of this chip will add a third level of cache memory to AMD's processors, allowing server designers to build systems with 16 and 32 processors, Hester said. Previously AMD's customers had been limited to building eight-processor Opteron servers because of the difficulty inherent in coordinating cache memory requests within multiprocessor servers. Cache memory stores frequently used data on the chip close to the CPU, where it can be accessed much more quickly than data stored in memory."

"http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/11/15/HNamdopt_1.html"

Let's suppose they run at 3ghz: 32*3=96. Enough said? Nope. On the opteron 8 series, when you put a cpu expansion board on a server board with 8 8xx opterons, you can put 128 gb of memory. Imagine how much you can put on the quad core 32 processor config...


PS: The 8xx supports 8gb per core, now if the new series supports that, then your looking at 1Tb of total system memory.
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:03 PM   #5
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No, you can't add the CPUs together. If you'd had 3GHZx32 CPUs, it will be like:

3GHZ x 32 = 3GHZ x 32

As for the memory, the bench would be 256-2TB depending on board. 1EB of HDD at most...
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I hope the OS can keep up with this. Yeah, here we are talking about how nice dual cores are when quad cores is already a reality. Can you imagine how fast it would be? Imagine doing a lot of heavy duty stuff all at the same time. No slowdown or bottleneck. Each core dedicated to doing it's own thing, theoritically. One thing for sure, you will see Windows become tons more stable with this technology.
Dude by 2007 they probobly won't even be needing to stuff a bunch processors in one machine. They will get loud from multiple fans cooling they system, they will take ALOT of RAM and other system resources, they will need like an 800watt power supply, the motherboards will have to have super abilities, and you will HAVE to have SLI. Knowing the computer industry, they will overcome this buy making one POWERFUL processor that has a nice steady core. Besides, people will be moving on to Linux for their multi-processing and server needs, Windows Vista is a last stand for Windows I'm affraid. People will want better software for their super machines when they realize Windows can't use their hardware efficiently for their new games and software, they'll get an easy linux distro like SuSE for their comps.
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They need to move on to light technology. That should seal it. No more electric impulses. Everything's done by transmitting light across the bus for extremely fast access time and reduce heat.
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lolololol yer crazy mate
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They need to move on to light technology. That should seal it. No more electric impulses. Everything's done by transmitting light across the bus for extremely fast access time and reduce heat.
They're working on something similar to that, actually. It's still a long way off, though - lots of issues to sort out with it.
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Yeah, and it's totally possible.
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Haha, I could dig that! Haha...

Imagine loading your OS in 3 seconds or less! Or loading a game way faster than ever before! Wow...incredible.
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Just for the hell of it, they should make a bulky cube processor with 128 cores to it by stacking them and connecting them.
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my dads computer loads windows in 5 seconds, and its an old dell p4 @2.66ghz
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lol quad-core soon good computers gonna cost way 2 much o.O the stuff needed 2 run new games will have 2 be super ownage and that means u probably gonna have 2 be in the $$$ to play them X(
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Dude by 2007 they probobly won't even be needing to stuff a bunch processors in one machine. They will get loud from multiple fans cooling they system, they will take ALOT of RAM and other system resources, they will need like an 800watt power supply, the motherboards will have to have super abilities, and you will HAVE to have SLI. Knowing the computer industry, they will overcome this buy making one POWERFUL processor that has a nice steady core. Besides, people will be moving on to Linux for their multi-processing and server needs, Windows Vista is a last stand for Windows I'm affraid. People will want better software for their super machines when they realize Windows can't use their hardware efficiently for their new games and software, they'll get an easy linux distro like SuSE for their comps.
Do you not think they have any of this in mind when they design and build such a thing? I remember reading such posts when they unvieled the plans of the Coppermine P3.

A quad core CPU will, by 2007, be manufactured on a much smaller fabrication process, such as 45 or 35nm. How does the number of cores affect the ammount of RAM being used by a modern system? by 2007, 2 to 4 GBs will be standard. Cooling, well, better power management and design methods will preveil - why? because it needs to for it to work, and they will get it to work. Take the Athlon 64 x2 for example, cooler than the fastest Polinomial cores of the oldest Athlon XPs yet plenty faster - because of smaller fabrication and bigger heatsinks amongst other things.

SLI will be a feature of the motherboard, but not necessary. Especially on server setups.

As for Linux taking over for Windows, only in some basic server setups - for home user, don't kid yourself. Windows Vista is obviously going to support quad core CPU's. Thats like saying Windows XP can't support dual cores or Hyperthreading. Vista isn't a slight brush up that WinME is over Win98, nor WinXP is over Win2k, but a complete overhall through and through. MS has the co-orporate backing that makes standards, integrates common frameworks and is responsible for the simplicity the PC is today (for Companies as well as Home users) and will be for the foreseeable future. How is such a widely modded and loosely coded OS like Linux going to compete in that area (How many Distros use the same Installation method? Configuring method? GUI? Even Drivers and RPMs for software etc and on top of that, how many manufactures simply want to brush of the existance of linux, turn round and want to walk away?). Linux is a extreamly flexible and moddable OS that is mostly suitable for scientific purposes and specialised systems, and athlough it has crossed leaps and bounds in the last 5 years for ease of use it is still a good 5 to 10 years of from replacing Windows. Installing software that is garanteed to work 1st time regardless of the Distro is still a no no.

When new hardware is released, such as new chipsets, CPU's, GPU's etc the primary target OS for the driver and software developement is Windows, never linux. 5 times out of 10 the drivers for Linux are released by the the linux comunity, if not, a lot later by the hardware developer and in almost all circumstances without all the features and performance benefits. Look at cross-compatible game benchmarks as proof. So to say " when they realize Windows can't use their hardware efficiently for their new games and software, they'll get an easy linux distro like SuSE for their comps" is quite untrue and as far as linux and Windows (From NT4.1) has went for the last 10 years, quite the opposite is true - espcially for the home user


Sorry mate, but get real and smell the coffee. I really don't mean to be such a critic but my 1st impression from your post is that your a MS hater and/or a blind Linux fan boy. They both have their advantages and disadvantages but to say Linux has clear cut better hardware support than Vista is a very arrogant prusumption - especially in the long run. I have used both for a multitude of purposes, and I would never say that one is better than the other for all uses.
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Just for the hell of it, they should make a bulky cube processor with 128 cores to it by stacking them and connecting them.
I like that idea lol.


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Hey, Connchri is back! Where have you been?
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Hey alvino, just Uni, too much work, and the accomodation wants a leg and an arm this year for Broadband so I ain't got Internet at my digs. All that will change when I get my own place in a few months
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