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Old 11-17-2005, 05:44 PM   #1
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Well i'm building a computer and need a processor thats gonna last me like 3 years....can someone give me a list of processors that would last me at least 3...hopefully 4 years...IT HAS TO BE AMD
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:22 PM   #2
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Here's my top three with the first one being the cheapest one I would get:

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 1GHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103529

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 1GHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103546

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo 1GHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103544

Those are my personal preference in order from least to greatest. The 4000+ is actually pretty good for the price. I would grab it in a heartbeat.
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:40 AM   #3
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:12 PM   #4
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if you must get AMD atleast 3700+ and get the sandiego core on what ever you get double the cache over the venice.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:23 PM   #5
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I hear that the Manchester core clocks better than the Toledo, but it does have that extra cache. There's always trade-offs which makes decisions so hard.
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manchester is older I think
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:32 PM   #7
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Just get a 3500 duh. They can overclock well and they are great processors.
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ummm....i'd get the 3500....but i need it to last til i'm a soph. in college...and i'm a soph in HS right now....that 4 years if you do your math right...the dual core will last me at least those 4 years even with the quad cores coming out in a year and a half....probably by the time i'm ready to upgrade the quad cores will be down in price a lot.....anybody know what 2 cores make up the AMD X2 3800+ ....I've always wondered
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:39 PM   #9
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I hear it was a Toledo core but using half the cache.
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so its 2 toledo cores....both using 512KB of l2 cache......Thats crazy....if i post what kind of parts i'm going to buy you think you could tell me how long it'll last???
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You can post what parts you want and I can give you my opinion on it. These days, there's so many new stuff coming out. But I'm sure whatever you pick will last three years easily. What helps me in my state of mind is this: think of what came out in the past and see how the technology has increased from that point. These days, a Pentium 2 is unheard of and that technology expired in 1999 when the P3 came out so that makes it like what? 6 years old? I would cut that by half because of software/hardware capabilities now.
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ok here it goes...keep in mind i rarely game at all......Without the case and power supply i have to keep it under $650
thermaltake Soprano Black w/ side window
thermaltake silent purepower 480w
ABIT AN8-ULTRA Socket 939 mobo
AMD athlon 64 X2 3800+
Patriot signature series 1GB (2x512)
Hatichi Deskstar 80GB hard drive
Lite On black CD burner
eVGA Geforce 6200TC

Let me know what you think and how long it will last
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keep in mind i will most likely be buying more ram and another Hard drive in a year or so
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Old 11-19-2005, 01:16 PM   #14
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That looks fine to me. You can still play games and do tons of stuff on it. If I were on a budget, that would be good. Maybe later on, you can upgrade the video card. I personally never used the Patriot RAM before but I'm sure it will do a fine job with your system. The Soprano is a nice case and I'm thinking of getting that too. It has two huge 120mm case fans in it for a gaming rig.
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yeah...its amazing looking...i have it sitting in my room right now...it has 2 120mm fans..which are amazing plus a 90mm side fan....The people that were helping me said patriot ram is very good for overclocking...and if it isn't it really doesn't matter....I will most likely upgrade the vid card in a year or so...or when my friend does then i can get his old one....when i first made this i was thinking it was going to last at least 4 years becasue of the dual core processor i was getting....so now...excluding the video card how would you rate this system....low end 1-10 high end.....I'm trying to build the best computer i can right now and still stay under budget
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I would say that your PC (in terms of how much you spend taken into consideration), it's a 9/10. Video card is good performer, but I wouldn't say it's high end. So I take it that this build is it for the next 4 years or whenever tempation takes over? I'm just about ready for another one soon, but can't seem to make up my mind yet.
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so now....would the only thing that would get it to a ten be the video card???....or do you suggest something else with the hardware....I'm open to any suggestions
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To be a 10, you would really need to beef up your RAM. Some high performance RAM would be nice along with a better video card. For the RAM, something along the line of the OCZ Gold or Platinum high performance series or the Geil ONE high performance RAM. VIdeo card, I'm getting confused with all that Nvidia has out now. They got all these crazy XT, GS, TC, LE, etc that throws me off.

I'm not saying that your system isn't good, which it is, but for a perfect 10 in my opinion, it would have to be better in those areas.
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I see what you're saying...i really want to get better RAM .....the only problem is that I don't know where it'd be safe to lower the price of my system....I mean..if you have an extra video card sitting around you don't use anymore..i can surley put that to work for you...that would give me about $60 more to work with...but if you have any input on lowering my price a little let me know
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You could try to get a cheaper case than the Soprano. I have a very generic case for my rig (Aspire case with Acrylic window). It's like $40, but works great. Comes with a power supply and never had any problems.
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