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Old 08-07-2014, 06:27 PM   #1
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Hey all,

Before I start, I would also point out this is my computer with the side case off right next to an open window with a fairly nice evening breeze rolling through!

I've recently put together a new build and all is well. However, idle temperatures of my processor hit around 50 degrees centigrade on medium CPU fan speed. If it's on maximum speed (very noisy) then it can get it back down to 40. Before installing the CPU I had applied new thermal paste.. I removed the original paste that was on the heatsink and applied the new... Tuniq TX-2.

I made sure the CPU was covered with the paste by applying a small amount at first and putting the heatsink on and removing it to see the spread. The spread was minimal, so I applied a few more tiny dabs to ensure all was covered. The heatsink is the original one the processor came with and the system is not overclocked in any way. Is it a possibility I applied too much paste? I did apply maybe 4 (very tiny dots) more of paste nearer the corners of the heatsink.

Additionally.. my motherboard runs at around 45-50 degrees! It's an ASRock 990FX Extreme 3.

Many thanks in advance for all your help.

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Old 08-07-2014, 06:46 PM   #2
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Hey there!

I've looked up that CPU and you're not the only one experiencing higher temperatures with the stock heatsink. I would recommend giving it a few hours for the paste to "settle" and if it's still high, look into a new heatsink.

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Old 08-07-2014, 06:51 PM   #3
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Hey there!

I've looked up that CPU and you're not the only one experiencing higher temperatures with the stock heatsink. I would recommend giving it a few hours for the paste to "settle" and if it's still high, look into a new heatsink.

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Many thanks for your time! I was telling myself that the paste needed to settle.. but I've been running it for a day or so now and it's still pretty warm. Was thinking to give it another day or two to see how it goes.. but even by an open window with a breeze and the case open.. I'd expect it to be much cooler! Even if it was the paste still adjusting!
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:56 PM   #4
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Hey there!

It's a common mistake but by opening your case, you're disrupting the natural airflow and could be raising the temperature. Did you open the case because it was much higher?

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Old 08-07-2014, 09:42 PM   #5
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^^ What he said. Case off is usually worse temp wise than case on. But it wouldn't make a giant impact on temps. Maybe a few degrees. The FX series tends to run hot in general. Get an aftermarket cooler just in general.
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Old 08-08-2014, 05:23 AM   #6
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Hi!

As this cpu have a TDP of 125 W it will always run hot....Especially on the stock cooler.

A couple of questions.

1. What case do you got?

2. Have you reduced the cable clutter?

3. Case fan set up?

4. Have you got a sufficient powersupply for your setup?

5. Room temperature?

Anyway, it would be best to replace the stock cooler with a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO for example. It's cheap but good. But then you will need to take out the motherboard and replace the back plate for the cooler.

If you don't wanna do that? Try to find a Scythe Iori. Not as good as the CoolerMaster. But noticeable better than the stock still, and more silent.
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Thanks guys.

The case is a great one, and there is no cable clutter, made sure to build it with all cables out of the way. Room temperature isn't too hot, but it's not cold either.

The power supply I have is a Corsair 650W... also running a Radeon R9 270X which idle temperatures reside at 40-45 degrees which I hear is pretty good.

I guess it's just a case of getting a better cooler then, eh?

I think I'll take a quick look at some CPU coolers and show a few I think look alright? Can give some recommendations!
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You're welcome.

Ok.

Some cooler suggestions:

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO as said. You can stick another silent 120 mm fan to it for a push and pull setup if you wanna improve the cooling further?

A Noctua fan for example.

Or if you want the best? Check out the Noctua coolers.

Yes, 40 - 45 degrees idle are ok for that card.
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Thanks Wolf, will check out that brand.

Just curious, many of the fans I'm looking at will have their compatibility stated... though many of them will say AM1 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 .. and then no AM3+? For which my motherboard is AM3+ socket.. I was wondering whether it made any difference, but then why would they state + for AM2?

Seems to be quite hard to find many fans compatible with AM3+, no?
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You're welcome.

I really don't know why they list the coolers like that?

But here you have a list on AM3+ compatible Noctua coolers. Check them out at newegg customer reviews to find the one that suits you best price - performance wise.

Noctua.at - sound-optimised premium components "Designed in Austria"!

By the way, the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO are compatible too.
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Aye, I was thinking the 212 EVO was the most ideal one, in terms of AM3+ availability and also the price (not ideally looking to spend more than 25-30 on a cooler)...

As an update, the CPU has been running at 50 degrees this morning. I removed the side case and temperatures dropped to 40 degrees for CPU! It's slowly climbing back up now I have replaced it... I have attached some pics of the case (sorry for the orientation)..

The first shows the back of the case with just a 120mm fan available. The front of the case has 2 120mm spaces available.. of which one one is currently occupied with a fan.

Additionally it may be worth noting that my computer is situated at body height, sitting down.. right on top of my desk. Whether the fact it's sucking in slightly warmer air from being a meter up than normal makes a huge difference, I don't know!
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Yeah, The Coolermaster cooler is a good choise. Then you will have some overclocking headroom too if you want to do that later on?

You wont get that much lower temperatures if you put it on the floor. You likely will get more dust collection instead.

What you could do, is to snip away that mesh in front of the exhaust fan. That mesh, makes the hot air from the fan bounce back and forth, and not much of it will actually get out of the case right away. This will also make the hot air build up inside the case. Just securily tape up a bag of some kind around the the case, fan hole before you snip. You don't want to get any metal shards into the case.

You will also get a more quiet case fan by removing the mesh.

Another good thing is that when you get the new cooler. You can mount it so that the cooler fan will blow the air directly at the case exhaust fan.

Edit. Looking at your photo of the top of the case. It seems to me there are another possibility to mount a fan there. Or am I wrong?

If there is? Definite get another fan and mount it for exhaust there.
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Yeah, The Coolermaster cooler is a good choise. Then you will have some overclocking headroom too if you want to do that later on?

You wont get that much lower temperatures if you put it on the floor. You likely will get more dust collection instead.

What you could do, is to snip away that mesh in front of the exhaust fan. That mesh, makes the hot air from the fan bounce back and forth, and not much of it will actually get out of the case right away. This will also make the hot air build up inside the case. Just securily tape up a bag of some kind around the the case, fan hole before you snip. You don't want to get any metal shards into the case.

You will also get a more quiet case fan by removing the mesh.
I'm not sure about the OP, but I could imagine some people being nervous about making a modification like that. I know myself and I'd probably avoid cutting the mesh myself out of fear that something could / would go wrong as a result of doing it.

If you're like me, start with a cooler and you'll see a pretty decent drop in temperature over stock. For your purposes, that'll probably be enough for you to feel comfortable with the unit's temperatures.
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If you tape up a bag over the hole ( inside the case of coarce) before the snipping as I said before. The risk are minimal. I have removed all the meshes ( 4 of them ) on my Antec P180B case without any accidents a long time ago.

Using a Dremel is much riskier than using some kind of plier as when you cut with the Dremel there will be a fine shower of metal dust.
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Thanks for the suggestion Wherewolf! It may possibly help, but I'll have to agree with what Bahawolf (lots of wolves around here!) and say I'd feel a bit nervous doing that.. additionally I know I wouldn't do it right and it'll make my beautiful new case quite messy I feel!

I've ordered a couple of new Bitfenix 120mm fans to stick on the front and keep the original on the back. Have also ordered the Evo 212 fan as well.. hopefully all of this will be sufficient in reducing temperatures!
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Ok. You're welcome.

I still wonder if you have an extra fan mount on top / at the roof of your case eventually?

If so? Stick one of those Bitfenix fans as exhaust there.
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I'm afraid not! I really wish I did though, that'd be perfect. I guess I'll just up the RPM of the rear fan a tad to help suck out the air from the CPU blowing upwards!
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Pity that. But cranking up the rpm will at least help some. If there are a possibility to do that for the exhaust fan too? It will help even more.
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That's what I plan on doing!

Update guys.. my CPU Cooler EVO 212 is arriving today! (Yay for Amazon Prime).

I would like to effectively remove the thermal paste from the CPU... but I don't have an Arctic Clean nor Isopropyl alcohol.. can anyone suggest of anything else that's good to use? Or even just sufficient? I'm kinda impatient and would like to get this cooler on today.. stock fan is just too noisy! Makes me feel like there's something to worry about with it!

Many thanks.
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Sorry to be off topic at but OP I like your case..
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