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Old 05-07-2007, 12:33 AM   #1
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AM2 - 3494

E6600 - 2477



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E6600 (OC'd @ 3.19 stock cooling)
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7600GT
Asus SLi Mobo



Yes i know i have 2 extra gigs of ram, but even before i put the other two sticks in my scores were higher. Could it be the graphics cards? They are the same but different. I don't think it would matter that much. Even on the CPU test when i was Oc'd to 2.55 on my 4200+ my max FPS on the cpu test was 3 FPS at max and he was getting 2 at his max

He also has a problem playing Regular CS 1.6 Its very sketchy and he gets 3-5 FPS on the serverlist page, and 20FPS at most in game.

What could be wrong?
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There could be a lot of reasons why there is a performance difference. Compare scores with clean installs of operating systems and drivers. Same settings for everything. Same amount of RAM, same video card clock speeds, same hard drives, same RAM timings.
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intel core 2 duo kills all
u gave it and un fair test
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intel core 2 duo kills all
u gave it and un fair test
care to explain how?
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When you run 3dmark if your focusing on which cpu is better you need to look at the cpu score not the overall score. Now looking at that score compare and you'll soon find out a 4200amd won't hold a candle to a e6600. If you further want to challenge the cpu download sandra and run the cpu bench's and see which handles more calculations etc per second.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:39 AM   #6
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yeah the amd would perform better ingames if it had an 8800 yet the c2d only has a 7600 but it would be unfair to compare them too as one vid card is very much better than the other , if you look at benchmarks on internet like toms hardware yoou will seee they try to get conditions of both machines as near to each other as pos so that would be a fair benchmark , thats like comparing my athlon xp 2000+ and 512mb ram and integrated gaphics to the athlon 1.1ghzz with 1 gig of ram and a powerfull gpu the athlon 1.1 would prolly win yet if i am comparing cpu's the 2000+ wud be better
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intel core 2 duo kills all
u gave it and un fair test
Iunno, I have a problem with people who just go around yelling Core 2 Duo kills all, I just find it really ignorant and unecessary, afterall, if that were true, we wouldn't see AMD, or a Barcelona.
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Iunno, I have a problem with people who just go around yelling Core 2 Duo kills all, I just find it really ignorant and unecessary, afterall, if that were true, we wouldn't see AMD, or a Barcelona.
i agree , intel may outperform but only the core 2 dua and another think amd is much better for your wallet
and plus the top end amd x2 would kill a puny lil e6300 or the 4300 series easily
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plus the top end amd x2 would kill a puny lil e6300 or the 4300 series easily
thats true, but when matched end-to end (basically low-end to low-end or whatever) the C2D usually (ephisis on usually) comes out the winner. Putting a low end C2D against a high end AMD isn't really all that accurate.
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Yeah, you have to compare equally priced products.

It's like saying a Lamborghini is faster than a Honda Civic. Duh..
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thats true, but when matched end-to end (basically low-end to low-end or whatever) the C2D usually (ephisis on usually) comes out the winner. Putting a low end C2D against a high end AMD isn't really all that accurate.
yeah i know that but i was pointing out that not all c2d kill amd
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Ah, i see. I miss read your post then. sorry .
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You had 3Gb of ram on the amd machine, and 1gb on the core 2 machine, hello?!?!?!?! Thats gonna affect the overall 3dmark score by tons
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You had 3Gb of ram on the amd machine, and 1gb on the core 2 machine, hello?!?!?!?! Thats gonna affect the overall 3dmark score by tons
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Read the WHOLE post please.

I said even before I added two more gigs I was in the 3k range
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clean installs? Same video card settings? Same RAM timings? Run the tests more than once, like 5 times per setup and average the numbers. Same power supply. Same hard drive.
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Read the WHOLE post please.

I said even before I added two more gigs I was in the 3k range
I did read the whole post, and a e6600 with 1gb of ram is gonna perform crappily on 3d mark because 1gb is enough to just run Windows with some apps, so the e6600's score would be much higher with another gig
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what i'd like to see is super Pi what ever it's called run on both systems since that is a mesure of almost only proc intensive.
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Do you have screenshots?? Sorry for being a disbeliever, but I mean your name does say AMD owns...
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what i'd like to see is super Pi what ever it's called run on both systems since that is a mesure of almost only proc intensive.
Ya me to my best time for the 1M I think is 13 sec. I think freestyler also got this or maybe he did better I can't remember...
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http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=479&chart=171

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