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theprodigy8964 07-14-2005 04:26 PM

Choosing a Player
 
I am trying to decide between a Creative player OR an iPod. Which do you guys think I should get and why?

PS. This is computer related. It is.

The_Necromancer 07-14-2005 04:31 PM

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probalbly a creative, B/c you can get napster and unlimited Dl for $15 a months were as Ipod is $1 for every song! So $10,000 to fill up an Ipod or
$500 @ 10 songs a day! Were is the Deal! here????

BobTheLOL 07-14-2005 04:35 PM

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I got a dell :)

The_Necromancer 07-14-2005 04:45 PM

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Dude, you got a dell!

BobTheLOL 07-14-2005 04:49 PM

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5gb, it rocks

theprodigy8964 07-14-2005 04:56 PM

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Wow. Thanks Necromancer. That really put it in perspective for me. Creative player it is!

extendcradle 07-14-2005 07:50 PM

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Ipod is good but I am much happy with my Creative MuVo right now since I could use it into my car unlike my previous Ipod player, when I tried to hooked it up on my car, it was covered by smoke because it blew up. Oh God,maybe i missed some instructions in their manual.

technoman 07-15-2005 06:55 AM

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which is cheaper lol ,,, do with the one the costs last because they don't last more then 2 years you will get bored, break them, stolen or lost ;)

theprodigy8964 07-15-2005 01:37 PM

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lol. Nice way to be positive technoman. :) Well, I am going to get a creative player.

alvino 07-15-2005 03:07 PM

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I want a PSP to be my MP3 player. I can have a separate 1gb memory stick for music and one for videos etc. I don't need tons of music, just some to pass the time.

theprodigy8964 07-15-2005 09:22 PM

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Yeah, I thought about that, but then I realized I want at least ten gigs. Lot's o' music for me.

austin15 07-15-2005 10:43 PM

i got a creative zen micro and i love it. its 5gb, you can listen to and record radio, and the batteries have 12 hrs of charge. it also has an EQ feature witch its really cool

BigLu 07-15-2005 11:56 PM

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The Zen Micro is great, I have a 20Gb Zen Touch, and it is awesome.

crazyman143 07-16-2005 12:34 AM

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so you can't use Ipods with Napster then? that's news to me I thought they were compatiple with the $15 a month thing

BigLu 07-16-2005 12:38 AM

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yes, you can use napster with an ipod, you just have to import the tracks into itunes after downloading them.

crazyman143 07-16-2005 12:40 AM

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oh... so how does napster do this "fill and refill for $15" thing anyway? I mean, after you copy them to your player, you could copy them back off right? and how do they even know that they are going directly to the player anyway?

lurkswithin 07-16-2005 02:05 AM

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You don't have to DL napster to your player. DL to your HDD and then you can burn them to disc or to your player or whatever.

technoman 07-16-2005 04:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theprodigy8964
lol. Nice way to be positive technoman. :) Well, I am going to get a creative player.

yeah thats me, good luck with it hope it doesn't get trashed :confused: :confused:

theprodigy8964 07-16-2005 08:28 AM

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I am gonna get a Creative Zen Touch 20gig. With napster, it should be a great combo. Thanks for all of your responses guys!

BobTheLOL 07-16-2005 08:41 AM

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i bought me a Dell 5 gig MP3 player, my brother gave me al his music.l

Syn7ax 3rror 07-16-2005 10:48 AM

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Ipod. It just ownz. And it is the only Apple item I wil ever buy.

IT OWNZZZZZ! JUST LIKE MY HP!

But it dosnt give me headshots :(.

crazyman143 07-16-2005 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lurkswithin
You don't have to DL napster to your player. DL to your HDD and then you can burn them to disc or to your player or whatever.

Naptster says they charge a fee per track when downloading songs to your hdd, however you can "fill and refill" your player for only $15 a month.. So if you go directly to the player and not the computer, they charge you less. so how do they know which is which?

alvino 07-16-2005 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by austin15
i got a creative zen micro and i love it. its 5gb, you can listen to and record radio, and the batteries have 12 hrs of charge. it also has an EQ feature witch its really cool

Yeah, Creative did a good job designing the Zen Micro. My only complaint is the slightly twitchy sensitivity.

theprodigy8964 07-16-2005 09:13 PM

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Ok. Went to Best Buy today to find an mp3 player, and I ended up buying a Green 4gig iPod Mini. Now, my only question is about napster. I got a free 30day trial of Napster to go, and I am wondering how I can get these on my iPod. Also, I am confused about the whole fill and refill deal.

winterfreshpwnz 07-16-2005 09:33 PM

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Yeah Creative is teh 0wn4g3. I have a Zen Xtra and it's really awesome. It even has this thing called Rescue Mode where you can reformat the hdd, uninstall and reinstall the firmware, do a diskscan of the songs to find errors and clean it up, it's really awesome and saved mine once actually. I had it really close to the edge of my bed while I was sleeping and I guess it dropped, turned it on and apparently the drop shook it up a little cuz it would always freeze at one of the loading screens. All I had to do was go into Rescue Mode, reformat and boom, it was back up and in fine shape.

cantona 07-16-2005 11:20 PM

Id say Ipod for no particular reason and i wouldnt worry about cost of songs since most of time just download them free...but creative are good too...i guess i chose Ipod coz look better (simple is good).

lurkswithin 07-16-2005 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyman143
Naptster says they charge a fee per track when downloading songs to your hdd, however you can "fill and refill" your player for only $15 a month.. So if you go directly to the player and not the computer, they charge you less. so how do they know which is which?

by tracing the link of the download.


And it has been a while since i used my napster card so didn't know about that program of downloading to a player.Thanks for the info there

theprodigy8964 07-17-2005 10:03 AM

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It says on napster that you MUST have a subscription to access your songs. Do your songs just go away if you unsubscribe? How can they do that?

Mental Liberator 07-17-2005 01:33 PM

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iPod so you can look be a cool kid.

catalyst 07-17-2005 01:55 PM

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Napster works sort of like iTunes. If you cancel your subscription with Napster, the songs you got from them won't work. Basically, your subscription fees pay for royalties (among other things), and if you aren't paying, you can't legally have the songs.... or something.

That's why I hate all those song programs like Napster and iTunes - the songs are never really yours. They aren't mp3's. They are proprietary formats like m4p (I believe that's the iTunes extension) that can't be copied or burned whenever you want to. They allot a certain number of burns and copies for the songs you get, and if you burn a song too many times, you'd have to buy it again to burn. Not to mention, you're screwed if you ever decide to cancel your subscription.... all that music down the drain.

Like I said in another thread, I have seen ways to convert different proprietary formats into mp3, but the methods I've seen are quite complicated and take some time. I think it's easier just borrowing a CD from a friend and ripping to mp3. Then I have the songs, and I can burn and copy as many times as I want to.

P.S. One simpler method I've seen is to burn the songs to a CD after you buy them and rip them back off the CD to mp3. I don't know if it would work, but it seems like it should, and it would be the easiest way to do it that I've seen.


EDIT > Borrowing a CD from a friend to rip is considered illegal, as well. It's really only legal to rip if you own a copy of the CD. So if you go out and buy a CD from Wal-Mart or wherever, it's okay to rip the songs to your computer and your mp3 player and to make copies, but if you ever get rid of the original CD, you legally have to delete all of the songs you ripped from the CD and destroy all the copies you made since you no longer have the right to own the songs.

It's the same idea behind ROMs. In order to legally own a videogame ROM, you must own the original videogame. That's why most ROM sites have disclaimers that say their ROMs can only be downloaded by owners of the game. It keeps them from being liable even though pretty much everyone downloads ROMs without owning the actual game.

money_man 07-17-2005 01:58 PM

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add ur music folder to the itunes folder then click update ipod and wa-la songs go on ni mp3 format

catalyst 07-17-2005 02:00 PM

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Well yes, the mp3's you already own stay mp3's. I'm talking about the songs you buy from iTunes.

money_man 07-17-2005 02:01 PM

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pff why buy them when u can download them for free

catalyst 07-17-2005 02:27 PM

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Well, I suppose the main reason is that it's illegal. But so is borrowing a CD to rip it. So the only legal ways to own music are to own the CD (which makes it okay for you to have copies on your computer and mp3 player) or to buy them from places like iTunes (lame). But if you're really set on doing it the illegal way, I recommend the borrowing-from-a-friend option.

Just to clarify, I don't recommend doing anything illegal. I'm just saying that RIAA and other copyright organizations are getting wise to online file sharing. For example, if you keep all your music in your shared folder, it makes it much easier for someone to pick you out and say, "Whoa, we got a heavy sharer, here." That's why I always moved my downloaded files out of my shared folder, but if everyone did that, it would sort of defeat the whole idea of file sharing.

money_man 07-17-2005 05:39 PM

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well what if you owned the c.d and tehn made a spare copy for urself and then the actual c.d broke...would it still be ilegal since tehn u only have the copied version?

catalyst 07-18-2005 02:41 AM

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Well, I'm no lawyer, but I'd imagine you'd have to keep the broken CD. I know, it sounds rediculous, but that's law for you.

money_man 07-18-2005 05:48 AM

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see stupid people who get paid too much dont think stuff through, they just make everything illegal and there done. if i did a half ass job like them i would never get paid

Charchris 07-18-2005 06:38 AM

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Get the creative the iTunes software made a few couples of everydong on my computer o.0 (big waste of Gigs) Creative ones go louder too so you can go deaf quicker lol

theprodigy8964 07-18-2005 09:41 AM

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Got a green iPod mini.

technoman 07-18-2005 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theprodigy8964
Got a green iPod mini.

personaly i wouldn't go for green does it look good


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