Right Dude_56013, no need for the attitude! I am only trying to help! Very convenient of you to radically edit your initial post removing your references to possible future overclocking (now reliability is paramount??)
Slow your roll, pal. I did no such thing. I said "IF". That doesn't mean I'm overclocking it out of the box. That means that as it gets to the end of it's useful life, it's nice to have that option to hopefully extend the usefulness another 6-12 months. I didn't come out and say that it wasn't ever going to happen, but I certainly didn't say that I was going to and then delete it. I don't know where you got that conclusion from. Reliability is certainly paramount. It's for work. It can't crash. I can't sit around and play with an OC. I'm sorry for your confusion. My wording wasn't the greatest, and I realize that some of my elaborations didn't occur until later in the thread, and the main reason for that is the fact that my initial post was already super long.
Removing reference to cost not being an issue
What in God's name are you talking about, dude? I didn't remove anything the bit about my price concerns are in my second post!!! I simply elaborated over the thread that while pricing wasn't a main concern, it certainly had to be justified.
removing reference to performance being the main issue (replacing it with an efficiency argument instead - which btw, Intel would probably still win hands down)
Again, where are you getting this from? I didn't remove anything. Me commenting on efficiency was a reply to your comments on temperature of the CPU not mattering. To which I fervently disagreed with citing efficiency as why. It had nothing to do with the performance of either platform being considered.
AND adding the additional info that you are planning AMD without a VERY good argument against it. You've completely changed your initial post making me look like a tit with my responses.
My initial post has remained the same, with the correction of three links that weren't working. My THREAD opinion has changed. Why do you think I posted here? If I was completely dead set and knew 100% AMD was the way to go, I would have ordered it. I wouldn't have come here to have others give me their opinions and advice. So yes, I did have AMD 99% dead set in my mind when posting. It was your valuable post that helped me dive into some forums to see that it may be advantageous to go with Intel. I didn't change my initial post. You can still see that I say it'd take a lot of work to get me to switch to Intel based on price/performance ratios. But, because Adobe is such a detailed and selective program, I was able to dig up some references that it does run my more efficiently and effectively with Intel platforms, including Nvidia based graphics, which you also helped point out so that I could do further research.
I was simply offering an alternative, no need for the sneekyness to paint me in bad light. I also brought to the discussion additional things to think about with GPGPU acceleration with Adobe, even though I'm no Adobe vetran.
Yes, and I didn't paint you in a bad light. You look like the hero in this thread. I was dead set on AMD, and you changed my opinion. I'm not sure what you're talking about here.
But, if keeping a one-man-band over the efficiency/performance of this rig (I'm not sure what your objectives are, as you seem to change them to keep your hardware, rather than contemplate changing your hardware to meet the objectives) is your aim, then go for it.
What? The one-man-band reference was explaining that I like to keep my GPU and MB/CPU within the same companies. That means, if it was an AMD system, I would go with AMD MB/CPU and an ATI GPU. If it was Intel, it would be and Intel MB/CPU and an nVidia GPU. Simple as that. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
As far as changing my mind? That's what forums are for. I don't feel as though I changed my objectives at all. I certainly have changed my mind on the hardware, but the objective of still having a great price/performance ratio'd rig to use for Adobe is still the same. Not sure what you are referring to with this one.
Also, what give's with Tomhardware not being a reliable source? It's been a decent source for years, is this just something someones pull out of thin air, or is there some decent reasons behind this bar hearsay? In addition, the zero'd results? come on, a bit of common sense here. Do you really think they are implying that the use zero energy? Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't test at the time due to some sort of constraint?
I have never trusted Tom's Hardware. I was there eons ago and ran away with my tail between my legs for how they treated me. In addition, I continue to see their forums populated with myths and uneducated members (which is not the case here). I also see many reviews that are just plainly incomplete (typically, what I mean is that instead of a general review, they pick and poke at certain aspects of things instead of the whole picture). You won't find to many Tom's Hardware links flung around here on this forum, for a few of those reasons. Anandtech, you will see those around often. As for the last bit, incomplete data is still incomplete data in my opinion.
And yes, Intel promptly issued new silicon for all the P67 and such like chipset motherboard manufacturers and carried out a huge & costly recall, after they, themselves, highlighted the problem.
I realized that after just a bit of research...most MB that were revised were denoted as B3 boards.
I don't know why I wasted the time. Again, I was only trying to offer help. Pure arrogance.
Cut the attitude, dude. Words and phrases aren't conveyed well over the internet. You should know that. No offense was intended in anything that I covered. I have a very matter of fact and blunt writing 'voice'. While you don't have the ability to, you could ask anyone who knows me professionally and they would agree with that statement. I apologize if you think I was trying to discredit you or make you look bad. It was never my intention. I hope you don't disappear from this thread now. I hope you do find this sincere.
