Again, just to clear things up, I enjoy debating about these sorts of things and don't intend to start arguments, be offensive or anything like that to anyone. I think it's good practice to take a step back, look and check what others think
But a genuine, general question to lots arguing against Christianity in this thread, have you all taken a step back and just read through the Bible or just a Gospel or two? And not just skim read, really tried to get into the meaning of what it's saying. So many people I talk to like to shout it down without ever having looked at things properly.
I don't find that very convincing. That has been around way before the cross was related to in a religious way. Does that mean that my body is held together with Swastika shaped cells because my family is Hindu? I didn't think so. I have a question for you. Do you believe in Allah and Buddha?
Starting off with an agreement - I have to say I'm not particularly convinced by the lamanin point either. It's a really interesting point, just not brilliantly convincing. Sure, it could be used perfectly well as a Christian analogy without relating to anything scientific and I'm sure it has been used as such successfully in the past - but it doesn't really prove anything. That said I think the argument was that everyone's bodies are made up of this stuff and so Christianity, Jesus and the cross is something that applies to everyone and always has done - so no, by that line it wouldn't differ depending on beliefs! Not that the question was directed at me but in case you might go somewhere with it anyway: no. I don't believe in Allah / Buddha.
Too bad that evolution goes against Christian belief. The Bible clearly states that everything was created in 6 days and the 7th day was spent resting. The public school system has to stop teaching evolution to kids because it went against the word of "god.' Evolution shows that things took way more than 6,000 years to fully develop and adapt to their surroundings. Carbon dating is a proven scientific method to date items.
Incorrect. It's true that the theory of evolution goes against the literal word of Genesis if you treat Genesis like a science textbook. But Genesis wasn't written as a science textbook, just as a science textbook wasn't written as a Charles Dickens novel. It's all about reading things in context. Genesis was written to bring God's chosen people closer to him, and if you read through the book in that regard you'll start to see it as a story of God's relationship with mankind rather than a scientific textbook on how the earth was formed.
Back to the Bible saying that he created everything with his hands in the shape of him.
Back to God being able to use his hands in any way to create everything he wants! And the Bible doesn't say he created everything in the shape of him, it says he created man in his image. Subtle but big difference there.
Horrible situation again. If I switched spots with you, I could say something entirely different.
You: "How did you do it?"
Me: "Well, I took nothing and I magically formed all of the parts out of thin air. I didn't need any tools or supplies. I just thought about it and it all formed together. Best part of all. I did it in the dark!"
Big flaw with that turn around. Of course that seems ridiculous, because I'm not an all powerful being!
Not really. The chances are actually extremely likely. The universe isn't a "planned" design. It's nothing but an extremely violent place. The Earth was a lot different than what it is now. But, due to evolution we have learned to adapt to our surroundings and have developed a tolerance for it.
Your argument here seems a bit confused - and I'd suggest you check facts from a scientific perspective on this one. Some of the best scientists out there at the moment are trying to work out how on earth (pun fully intended
) life came to this planet because the odds are so ridiculously small just taking into account current and accepted theories. If the universe is nothing but an extremely violent, random, unplanned place then how does that make the chance of intelligent life extremely likely?
There a couple of things about science which I like. Things actually have a chance to be proven. People question what is told to them. There is a constant struggle to find the answer. We aren't repeating what was told to us thousands of years ago in an ever-changing world.
Again, it seems to be a common misconception that all Christians just take what's said to them without checking anything, blindly accepting what they're told and proclaiming it without having an ounce of reasoning to back it up. Not the case - I and most other Christians I know will go away and check (pretty thoroughly) something we're told if we think it's a bit unlikely. As for repeating scripture from thousands of years ago in an ever changing world, it personally fascinates and gets me every time that despite this text being thousands of years old - it's still relevant and amazing today.
