I'm glad that some people are sensible on here,
Freestyler, the way you sound like you're intending to drive, (racing your friends, trying to go too fast in the snow etc) it's not going to be long before you wrap that car around a tree, another car or a person.
you want an AWD so you can drive faster in the snow. you think that AWD is going to help you get around a corner faster in the snow? please explain that?
I reckon that's complete BS.
firstly, you're going to skid when you brake, AWD won't make a difference, I have a FWD car, when it snows if I drive too fast and brake too hard I skid, there will be no difference in your car, it still has four wheels and still brakes on all four wheels. my dad has a 4WD car if he drives too fast and brakes too hard his car skids as well.
(and it's a land rover discovery so you can't be saying it's just a crap example of a 4wd car, it has almost impeccable any surface and conditions record for driving -by trained people)
you think that you'll skid around a corner,
OK, I guess that there may be some truth in this, FWD are slightly less officiant at cornering than RWD cars because you have power on the front wheels and this reduced the turning efficiency, (though you'll still have power on the front wheels in an AWD car). (I can't remember exactly how this works it's something to do with over coming forces and trying to put forces opposing your motion).
but you'll still have the same problem anyway, you still have forward momentum when you turn, and if this is too great your tyres still won't be effective, they will still slide out from under you preferring to go forward with the force that they have, momentum is a force described as the weight and speed in a given direction, to turn you have to overcome this, and that relies a lot on grip, more than it does what wheels power is delivered to. i.e it'll be just as easy to skid your audi as it would any other car, (including all the cars that you've said are not good enough in this thread). there is a reason that people might slow down to 7mph for a corner in the snow, that's the safe way to do it.
I agree thought that RWD cars are less suitable for driving in the snow, it's always the case that either there is not enough weight over the back axle to get traction, or your engine is over the back wheels and there is a greater chance of your car turning around due to the effects of momentum when turning. because all the weight is at the back.
anyway. long story short, if you drive the way that you seem to sound like you're planning in this thread I'd get a car that was worth only $100 (no I didn't miss a 0) because you're going to crash it pretty soon anyway.
at least then you could go through a hundred and twenty cars before you've exhausted that 12K car fund!
My final thought on you racing your friend in the GTi...
According to this his car will make 0 - 60 in 7.3 seconds
(source: http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=122001)
whilst yours will do it in about 5.8
(source: http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=21769)
(assuming you can drive it well enough). so you may have a chance at beating him, but you may also be a crap driver and he'll still beat you in a slower car.
and whilst you think that your car is great because it's got 50 extra horses.
it's heavier, so power to weight ratio only looks like and extra 20 horses, (so you have ~10% more power than he has, not ~25% extra).
you gotta think, would your 250HP car beat a 194HP bike?
by your reckoning you've got bags more power and of course you will!
Anyone who knows there bikes will know that there is only one bike in the world that powerful, and you're not going to beat it in a car. because it's faster than all cars.
really, just from what you;re saying in this thread, you don't need a car, not just that you don't need a nice big fast car, just you don't really need a car at all.
you'd like a car, and in some strange and twisted way you think that trying hard at school (like you're meant to anyway) is a great reason for your parents to spunk 12 grand on a nice car for you.
anyway, you want a reason to have a car, well cause I want one seems to be the only real reason, or so I can get places.
if you can't justify the reasons that you need a car for yourself then do you really need one at all?
(I didn't have a car in school because I could walk there, -obviously you can't perhaps it's too far away?), I got a car because I needed one, (I worked 20 miles from home and there was no buses). if you honestly can't find a reason for having a car, then perhaps there really isn't a reason?
Freestyler, the way you sound like you're intending to drive, (racing your friends, trying to go too fast in the snow etc) it's not going to be long before you wrap that car around a tree, another car or a person.
you want an AWD so you can drive faster in the snow. you think that AWD is going to help you get around a corner faster in the snow? please explain that?
I reckon that's complete BS.
firstly, you're going to skid when you brake, AWD won't make a difference, I have a FWD car, when it snows if I drive too fast and brake too hard I skid, there will be no difference in your car, it still has four wheels and still brakes on all four wheels. my dad has a 4WD car if he drives too fast and brakes too hard his car skids as well.
(and it's a land rover discovery so you can't be saying it's just a crap example of a 4wd car, it has almost impeccable any surface and conditions record for driving -by trained people)
you think that you'll skid around a corner,
OK, I guess that there may be some truth in this, FWD are slightly less officiant at cornering than RWD cars because you have power on the front wheels and this reduced the turning efficiency, (though you'll still have power on the front wheels in an AWD car). (I can't remember exactly how this works it's something to do with over coming forces and trying to put forces opposing your motion).
but you'll still have the same problem anyway, you still have forward momentum when you turn, and if this is too great your tyres still won't be effective, they will still slide out from under you preferring to go forward with the force that they have, momentum is a force described as the weight and speed in a given direction, to turn you have to overcome this, and that relies a lot on grip, more than it does what wheels power is delivered to. i.e it'll be just as easy to skid your audi as it would any other car, (including all the cars that you've said are not good enough in this thread). there is a reason that people might slow down to 7mph for a corner in the snow, that's the safe way to do it.
I agree thought that RWD cars are less suitable for driving in the snow, it's always the case that either there is not enough weight over the back axle to get traction, or your engine is over the back wheels and there is a greater chance of your car turning around due to the effects of momentum when turning. because all the weight is at the back.
anyway. long story short, if you drive the way that you seem to sound like you're planning in this thread I'd get a car that was worth only $100 (no I didn't miss a 0) because you're going to crash it pretty soon anyway.
at least then you could go through a hundred and twenty cars before you've exhausted that 12K car fund!
My final thought on you racing your friend in the GTi...
According to this his car will make 0 - 60 in 7.3 seconds
(source: http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=122001)
whilst yours will do it in about 5.8
(source: http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=21769)
(assuming you can drive it well enough). so you may have a chance at beating him, but you may also be a crap driver and he'll still beat you in a slower car.
and whilst you think that your car is great because it's got 50 extra horses.
it's heavier, so power to weight ratio only looks like and extra 20 horses, (so you have ~10% more power than he has, not ~25% extra).
you gotta think, would your 250HP car beat a 194HP bike?
by your reckoning you've got bags more power and of course you will!
Anyone who knows there bikes will know that there is only one bike in the world that powerful, and you're not going to beat it in a car. because it's faster than all cars.
really, just from what you;re saying in this thread, you don't need a car, not just that you don't need a nice big fast car, just you don't really need a car at all.
you'd like a car, and in some strange and twisted way you think that trying hard at school (like you're meant to anyway) is a great reason for your parents to spunk 12 grand on a nice car for you.
anyway, you want a reason to have a car, well cause I want one seems to be the only real reason, or so I can get places.
if you can't justify the reasons that you need a car for yourself then do you really need one at all?
(I didn't have a car in school because I could walk there, -obviously you can't perhaps it's too far away?), I got a car because I needed one, (I worked 20 miles from home and there was no buses). if you honestly can't find a reason for having a car, then perhaps there really isn't a reason?