But what has he lead that makes him a leader? He was in the Illinois state senate, and has been in the US senate for three years but has done very little. He has voted "present" on most of the votes he was there for. He also has missed tons and tons of senate votes because he has been campaigning for the presidency for most of his term. If he can't do what his constituents elected him to do, how can he run a country where WE elect him to run the nation. Also knowing what someone wants and promising them everything they want to hear is different than actually doing something. He's a good talker, but I haven't seen much doing on his part. He seems to promote himself, get elected into an office, and then promote himself for something else. I like him and think he's a decent man but I don't think I'd vote for him because his strong lack of experience, and the fact that his positions and my positions are pretty different. I'm not a strong liberal at all and am more conservative, he was named the most liberal member of the senate in 2007, more so than Ted Kennedy or John Kerry. There's nothing wrong with being liberal, but going too far on either end of the spectrum isn't good. That goes for being too far conservative as well.
All these campaigns are full of false promises. Obama has some good ideas but his whole campaign is the word "change" which can mean many things good or bad. He's running on promises that will go unfulfilled just like they did with every other president. There are factors that decide the outcomes of these promises. What if Obama is elected and has to work with a Republican congress? there goes his universal healthcare, energy independence and ending the war. Same goes for a divided congress like we've got now, nothing will get done and it will reflect badly on his part. Honestly, I'm more focused on the members of congress that are up for election since they're the ones who make the laws and write bills.
Keep in mind I am NOT bashing Obama and I do like and respect him. I think it's great that we've got a black man as the front runner for the presidency, and the fact that he's young is cool. This is history being made. I just don't feel he is ready to lead the nation given its current state of being. I do like the fact he has kept his campaign clean and has not used the tactics that Clinton has used. McCain and Obama have run a clean campaign against one another and that's one thing I admire from both of those candidates. Change in small doses is a good thing, but too much of a good thing isn't really a good thing.
One last thing, I didn't read anything sexist or racist in Waldorf PC's posts. It's interesting to read the female perspective on issues such as the role of women, and abortion. While I might not agree with a few things said, it's nice to see a female participating in a debate on a forum that is largely dominated by males. What I saw in her posts was meaning what you say and saying what you mean. Speaking your mind is a good thing, it's freedom of speech and thankfully we are able to engage in these types of debates here and keep them clean. I've been here for about a year and a half and I've seen some pretty ugly debates, this one is probably the most productive and meaningful debates I've seen in my time here.
Ok that's my 2 cents!
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I'm glad you, too, can see where I'm coming from. Yeah, I'm all about keeping things civil. I have my views, but I'm not bashing others for having theirs. I don't mind defending my views, and I have no problem speaking my mind as you can see.
ESA193, this whole thing about the women came about BECAUSE we were talking about the candidates. I told, in depth detail, why I would and would not support certain ones. These debates sprang from this. And, I enjoyed them. I walked away feeling fine, as I knew I was civil.
It is not my fault you dislike my take on things. That is life. Not everyone is going to think like you.
My two sense will continue so long as the mods do not have a problem with me doing this. I'm pretty reasonable, and I'll abide by any rules set forth. The mods who've dealt with me when I had some misunderstandings about some of the rules when I was a newbie could voutch for that. What I had done was not against the rules. I merely expressed my thoughts. Like it or not, I'll continue to.
So what, I don't support the way women today do things. Now, are you going to hang me because I'm not modern? I live by what I say. In my household, the man is the head, and I'm satisfied with that. To be quite frank, I don't ever want that responsibility. I'm fine where I am.
I own my own business, I'm a leader, and just because I know my place doesn't mean I'm not significant because I'm a woman. I've made differences in the lives of many and will continue to. I've striven many leaps and bounds, and I'm quite successful. I've spoke before the senat and the house of representatives on behalf of the rights of blind and visually impaired persons. I've helped many in impovrished and bad situations. I've cared for many who suffer from mental and physical handicaps. I've been a performing artist for twenty years, and I've just put out my own CD. I've done many more things that it would be too much to list here. What do you know, I did this and I'm a woman!
You are butchering everything I say. I said that women have their place. What's wrong with that? It is not negative at all. So what, you disagree. That is totally fine with me. Life goes on.
I will not be told to shut up or have someone abuse their power over me. No, I'm not a cocky person by any means. But, I will exercise my rights. And, you are the only one here who has a problem with me and my views on things. Everyone else has semed to be quite mature about it having a healthy debate.
I've been quite civil to you. I don't know what else to do. If you want me to change my stance on things, it's not happening. And, I will continue to, regardless if you like it or not, speak my stand on issues. Everyone else is doing it, so can I.