Permanent ban, well I have stuck up for him several times but this time I wont, I motioned that he should curb his behavior when he got Banned last time, after now having been TB several times a PB was only around the corner, a man of his age an his background (prison guard) knows how to dish out and take orders so he has "no get out of jail card" this time, I only hope I'm wrong and its just a miss understanding if not then we have lost a good member regardless of what other people think of him.