Thank you for the quick answers and honest replys to my sometimes simple(most of the time) questions,It seems since I switched to xp-pro a while back what little computer skills I possesed have dis-appeared with certain forums I used to belong to.You know the ones that you modded simple bin files,looped and un-looped,and played in the sandbox.well the ones who know what I am talking about,will get a chuckle,the ones that don't ,Well that era came to an end.Was fun while it lasted.It sure helped improve my understanding of how utilitys and computers work,however I have found the more I learned the more I realized I didnt know!!!So thank you all very much for having a forum like this and taking the time to help A grandpa survive in this puter world!Have A great Day!>Marvin