MikeReiner said:Quit your whining. I like both intel and AMD.. niether has failed me.. i'll just buy whichever is faster a the time when it comes out.
And yes, just because the AMD K8 is out performed by leaps and bounds my the core 2 duo, does not mean it is obsolete. You can still go buy one and not have any problems with modern day games or other applications. Now if you went and bought a PII (or the AMD equivilent), you would have some huge performance issues.. thus, k8 is not obsolete.
Well, if you want to get down right technical and specific, then you could say the K8 is obsolete, but we don't all think like that. Just because the fastest processer makes everything below it obsolete doesn't mean we wont buy anything but the best.Sytheious said:No one is whinning...
Anywho, The Athlon64 is obsolete. The X2 line up replaced the standard 64s. Doh! And, if we take a look at the word "obsolete," we can clearly see that it is...
ob‧so‧lete  /ˌɒbsəˈlit, ˈɒbsəˌlit/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ob-suh-leet, ob-suh-leet]
to make obsolete by replacing with something newer or better
Vwala. Somethign NEWER or BETTER. X2 ftw...
Sytheious said:No one is whinning...
Anywho, The Athlon64 is obsolete. The X2 line up replaced the standard 64s. Doh! And, if we take a look at the word "obsolete," we can clearly see that it is...
ob‧so‧lete  /ˌɒbsəˈlit, ˈɒbsəˌlit/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ob-suh-leet, ob-suh-leet]
to make obsolete by replacing with something newer or better
Vwala. Somethign NEWER or BETTER. X2 ftw...
MikeReiner said:Well, if you want to get down right technical and specific, then you could say the K8 is obsolete, but we don't all think like that. Just because the fastest processer makes everything below it obsolete doesn't mean we wont buy anything but the best.
I only think of something in terms of computer hardware as obsolete when it wont fulfill my needs.. which happens to be atleast 40 fps in most conditions with medium or low graphics settings.
When it reaches the point that all single core CPUs can't run whatever it is that I want to run, THEN I will consider single core CPUs obsolete.
Yeah, those p4s are cheap.. but i'd rather get a cheap amd64.. better price-performance ratio there than intel's p4 lineup.Sytheious said:Which is why I agree with you. By DEFINITION(!) it is, however, this only makes the products within that line up cheaper, thus more desireable to purchase and use. Which is why Pentium4 CPUs are like $70 right now. Making them QUITE desireable for my LGA775 build in the near future. They're cheap, solid, and play games at more then adequet settings.
I guess all in all the word "obsolete" is rather subjective and open to interpretation.
MikeReiner said:Yeah, those p4s are cheap.. but i'd rather get a cheap amd64.. better price-performance ratio there than intel's p4 lineup.
$75 for a 3200+:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535
$88 for a 3ghz prescott:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116014
the 3200+ is a little bit faster.. runs cooler too.. though I don't think the performance is phenominally faster.
These days.. it's perfect for gamers on a budget. A dirt cheap 3000+ or 2.8ghz p4 can be had for under $70,
a decent mobo for $60 or less,
decent dual channel ram kit of 1 gig of ram for $100,
a good graphics card for $150 (7600GT FTW!)
you get the idea.. a decent gaming computer can be had for around $500 or less these days.