Hope I don't show myself up too much, I've said in the past, I'm no techie, you quoted twice, in posts 8 & 14, which one is relevant? & why?, I can only see that he was given details, that, if he followed them up, would, if he wished, enable him to crack security codes, if you can explain this, yes, I'll be embarrassed, but I will aso be satified that all is well, remember, you don't have to be technically minded to be a mod, & I admit I'm the least knowledgable of the eleven of us, but I hope I'm a good one..