Yeah, the intel obviously runs much cooler given the voltage difference. Keeping the Intel cool with nothing but stock air and being over clocked that far, vs the FX-60 being jacked up with 1.6 voltage being forced to use phase change just to keep a stable temp.. and even then, the score was different by about 1,000 at the least.. poor amd, they have to take the back seat this generation. *shrugs*. ONWARDS TO CONROE!