e n g lish15x: hey
Arrizx: Hey
e n g lish15x: so about the dual core vs single core ... why is single core better for gaming ?
Arrizx: Well.. Right now.. Games can only utilize one core at a time, so really the dual core is just sitting their, taking up space. Although, thats not the case for all games, like FEAR
e n g lish15x: what about battfield 2 and call of duty 2 ... which i guess are pretty recent
Arrizx: Well.. No. I dont beleive that they are dual core utilized. I Think BF2 has a patch out for all Intel users to utilize the HT technology.. But other then that, I really dont think their is anything
Arrizx: But you need to realize as more games come out, more will be using the dual core.
e n g lish15x: true ... it seems to be more and more popular
Arrizx: Well its also better for runnig more then one program at once.
e n g lish15x: what does an Athlon X2 2.2 GHz processor equal up to in the single core processors
e n g lish15x: ohhh
Arrizx: Well.. Thats a diffuclt comparison
Arrizx: I really cant answer that. Its just that the clock speeds vary so much.
e n g lish15x: ohhhh
Arrizx: Although, want me to show you a single core processor just for kciks?
e n g lish15x: ya sure
Arrizx: Okay
Arrizx: Price about?
Arrizx: Anything, or what?
e n g lish15x: under 350 - 400
Arrizx: Okay
e n g lish15x: also .. Recommended Operating System: 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
RAM: 1 GB System Ram
Video Card: ATI X800 series, Nvidia GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card
e n g lish15x: thats for elder scrolls oblivion
Arrizx: This is probably the best single core processor that Amd offers
Arrizx:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529
Arrizx: And about that.. Roughly, an Amd 3000+ is equal to the Intel Pentium 3.0ghz
e n g lish15x: ohhh okay
e n g lish15x: and another thing is more than a Gig of ram over kill
Arrizx: Nah.. No
Arrizx: Are you familiar with the page file
e n g lish15x: nope
Arrizx: or virtual memory?
e n g lish15x: nope
Arrizx: well do you understand what ram is and does
e n g lish15x: doesnt it basically enhance the refresh rate of the tasks on the computer ?
Arrizx: Sure, lol.. Well here let me lay it our for you
e n g lish15x: alright
Arrizx: The page file in windows, is the same thing as virutal memory. Essentially what the page file does it section off a peice of the hard drive, and uses it as ram. but mind you its the hard drive. So its mechanical, and really isnt even close to as fast as ram using the memory conroller. The thing is that with the hard drive it is alwayys spinning, loading data, saving, ect. right? Right. Well.. if you also put the weight of using the page file on it, it just gets stressed out. Thtats why it runs slow, if you have a shit hard drive. But if you get 2gb or more of ram, windows doesnt need that page file. So the hard drive, can do its own little thing, and, the ram is finally totally utilized.
e n g lish15x: wow .. that actually made sense to me, awesome
Arrizx: Really, anything over 4gb is over kill
Arrizx: Unless used for a server
e n g lish15x: ya
Arrizx: but dont worrya bout that
e n g lish15x: hah yea
e n g lish15x: so .. what is your system set up, im just wondering
Arrizx: Thats why Im gonna reccomend for your comptuer 2gb of ram
e n g lish15x: alrighty
Arrizx: Lol.. nothing special. Its an Intel Pent 4, 630. 3.0ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb hard drive
Arrizx: sound blaser live! sound card, that doesnt work
Arrizx: and its a dell.
e n g lish15x: thats better than mine
e n g lish15x: haha
e n g lish15x: i hate dell
Arrizx: Im scared to list the Gcard
Arrizx: but its the x300
Arrizx: Lol
Arrizx: sad huh
e n g lish15x: hah if i knew what that meant i would laugh
e n g lish15x: i have .... a geforce mx4 420
Arrizx: I dont even know what that is, lmao.. But put in perspective, my video card, is no better then standard intigrated graphics
e n g lish15x: hah
e n g lish15x: from what my friend told me intigrated grpahics suck
e n g lish15x: thats what i have though
Arrizx: they do suck
Arrizx: my computer gaming abilities suck
Arrizx: lol
e n g lish15x: hah, what games do you play
Arrizx: Css, hl2, area 51, guild wars day of defeat source
e n g lish15x: is that first one Counterstrike
Arrizx: yea
Arrizx: counter strike source
e n g lish15x: whats h12 ?
e n g lish15x: ohhh
Arrizx: Half Life 2
e n g lish15x: ohhh okay
e n g lish15x: no battfield 2, or morrowind/ oblivion ?
Arrizx: just to let you know, counter strike source is a mod of half life two
e n g lish15x: oh alright
Arrizx: I would if my computer could support it, and if I had the cash to get a new video card
e n g lish15x: yea
Arrizx: but right now, im getting a new moniter, and a system in my car
e n g lish15x: ah system in cars
e n g lish15x: i just sold mine so i could get money for this haha
Arrizx: Lol smooth
e n g lish15x: i figure stock sound in my truck is okay
Arrizx: Well not for me!!
e n g lish15x: hah
Arrizx: I happen to like lots of bass
e n g lish15x: well whatever your cup of tea is
Arrizx: suppose so
e n g lish15x: ... now wait you know the vid card you sent me. the umm His radeon ?
Arrizx: HIS. tahts the brand. Also known as High Tech
e n g lish15x: ohhh
Arrizx: Its the Radeon x800xt or something like that
Arrizx: very nice card
e n g lish15x: i dont understand that ... why is there different brands of like the Geforce and such
e n g lish15x: and radeon
Arrizx: Their called chipsets
e n g lish15x: ohhh
Arrizx: Radeon is Nvideas, and Ati's is Radeon
Arrizx: their are others but yeah
e n g lish15x: alright
Arrizx: need explinations on video cards, and whats in them?
e n g lish15x: sure .. another question is though, the 256 mb of ram on the HIS card is that much of a difference than the 512 mb ram on the better ones
Arrizx: oh yes. Thats a huge difference.
e n g lish15x: oh okay
Arrizx: Although, in my opinion ((not all)), but pixel pipelines are more important
e n g lish15x: what are those
Arrizx: Ok.. here comes another long one...
Arrizx: Lol
e n g lish15x: haha go ahead i got time on a sat night at 5am
Arrizx: Think of it like this.. You have the core clock of a video card. Also known as the GPU. Its same thing as the processor, but for a video card. Anyways, you have the core clock on the gpu, and pixel pipelines are the things that move the data from one place to another. Now if you have too high of a core clock, and not enough pixel pipelines, it bottlenecks its self, because that data cant make it from point A to point B. But say you have the same core clock, but more pixel pipelines. That means that the data can freely move from one place to the other. Its like lanes in a highway. You have 16 cars going down 12 lanes, and 16 cars going down 16 lanes,. and the lanes are the pipelines. So which one is faster? The 16 lane highway is faster. becayse it moves all cars at once.
Arrizx: As for memory and memory interface, all I know is that bigger is better.
e n g lish15x: wow that made sense also ...
e n g lish15x: wanna help me build a complete system haha
Arrizx: sure
Arrizx: just tell me your budget
e n g lish15x: i would say 1500
Arrizx: great number
e n g lish15x: it can prolly sway to about 1700 also though
Arrizx: ill try and keep it cheap, but damn, this system is gonna kick
e n g lish15x: hah
e n g lish15x: hey another question ... is there any brand thats better than any other at making RAM and is DDR the best ?
Arrizx: Well, for Amd systesm you have no choice. ddr is all you can have. although, for video cards GDDR3 is the best you can get. And for an intel based system, you can actually have ddr2. And when the new Amd socket Am2 comes out, ddr2 will also be avaliable for use.
e n g lish15x: ohhh okay
Arrizx: just to let you know im going to post this
e n g lish15x: its cool. hey thanks alot for helping me, i appreciate it alot, i was gonna buy a XPS game system threw dell but that seemed awful
Arrizx: No problem dude. Anyways.. Low budget dell systems, and laptops, all kick ass. including their moniters. but when you get into the mutlimedia systems, they over price them
e n g lish15x: ya i like my monitor i have threw dell
Arrizx: i bought my system for like 1400, with surround and all that, but still, i could get the same shit myself for like 800
e n g lish15x: its a 19 in LCD ultrasharp
e n g lish15x: ya
Arrizx: oh for real?
Arrizx: how do you like it.
Arrizx: thats the montier iw as looking at
e n g lish15x: its gorgeous
Arrizx: i think im getting that montier tomorrow actually
e n g lish15x: get it , you wont regret it.. it has beautiful picture
Arrizx: awesome, cant wait now!
e n g lish15x: hah
e n g lish15x: how much you getting it for ?
Arrizx: like 254, because its 25% off
e n g lish15x: straight from dell ?
Arrizx: i beleive so, yes
e n g lish15x: awesome
Arrizx: how much was yours
e n g lish15x: i cant remember
e n g lish15x: i got it about 2 years ago
e n g lish15x: this is my dads computer
Arrizx: oh
e n g lish15x: i ordered it though and picked everything
Arrizx: oh tight