thanx all...my father is very very very picky and if it even looks suspicious he will not even look at it.... im pretty sure he knows that i know how to get by software fairly well and i could probably get around it...so it needs to be uhh.... able to keep one from doing that... (not that i would of course ) but anyway thanx for the input...if anyone has anyfurther thoughts plz speak them... but thanx guys who allready posted