Lol.. So I got a new iPod mini today, and all of tonight, I'm trying to figure out how to connect to the iPod. Obviously, iTunes is for losers and sucks, so i didn't even consider that. So I take out my trust winAmp and download the latest iPod plugin, but when I transfered some music, the iPod didn't pick it up. I was like.. wtf? So I try to install THEIR CD software, but it exits in the middle, saying it's encountered an error. So I'm like... okay..... I go to apple.com, and download iTunes. But when I plug in the Ipod and turn on iTunes, the program doesn't recognize it's own damn mp3 player. Wow, apples suck. After I figure out how to work with this iPod, i'm not letting any more of their crappy hardware in my house.