inimino said:
I don't have any interest in changing your mind, I'm just presenting my opinion. You'll have to change your own mind, or not.
My point was that I had presented a case which you had shouted down with little (i.e, no) hard evidence, upon researching and trying to back up what you were saying came to numerous deadends...
I'm just suggesting that in a civilised conversation you should present facts in a clear and consise manner, not just go through posts saying wrong wrong wrong,
I don't do Windows programming and I know nothing about it.
So when you told me I was wrong when talking about the integration of the scripting languages with the OS as DLL files (quite specific to windows) you were in fact telling me I was wrong for the sake of it? you've later stated that you don't know about windows,
Public information. Google is your friend.
You missed the point, I did use google to ersearch the points I made, it seems that you didn't...
Anyway according to your wn definitions of 'evoutionary dead end' both perl and python are at an evolutionary dead end, having been around for many years and spawned no significant modifications or daughter languages, whilst development does (apparantly) continue, the ideas pool appears to be a little stagnent.
I don't have the spare hours to educate you. I've used all these languages and I prefer Python as a language and for many kinds of projects. If PHP is sufficient for your needs then stick with it.
I never asked you to educate me, I challenged you to make suggestions as to why it would be worth my while to learn this aging language over a new lanuguage that has more features...
frankly after a small adventure with perl I decided that it was not worth whilse, to monolithic, barly structured (or open to too many interperatations of what does count as structure)...
(as a network engineer who has trained as a C programmer for programming console programs and embedded on chip solutions I like (and almost need) things to be structured,) -perl didn't give me that, and nor did python when I looked at it.
in fact python seemed more like scripting temporary batch files rather than making something that would stand the test of time,
So...
it seems that you fail to provide any reasonable argument why anyone should choose any one labuguage over another, your only arguments being.
1, you use a particular language and feel most comfortable with that language.
2, you'll shout anone else with a differing opinion down with no reasonable evidence or prooven backed up alternative...
At the end of the day, yes PHP does fulfill my programming needs (as I mostly use PHP for prototyping console C applications),
but since I was assured that PHP was at an evolutionary deadend, and that in ten years nobody would be using it, I was asking why should I move to an even older language with a fewer (obvious) features and less (obvious) structure?
your lack of response assures me that I shouldn't make a move towards either python or perl over PHP.