whats so bad about emachines?

[yellowsnowman]

I am 13 and on a very limited budget, I am going to buy a refurbished emachine but i see that most of them are celerons or celeron D, all of the people here say celerons are horrible, but what is so bad about them?
please give facts not opinion.

 

[Dynamix]

If you are on a budget got for a AMD Athlon Xp Machine or a sempron there real cheap over here in the Uk!

 

[Giancarlo]

These aren't opinions. I'll give you facts about the Celeron:

1) You only get 16KB of L1 Cache, whereas on as on an AMD Sempron (Duron successor) you get 128KB

Benchmarks showing the Celeron is way slower then the budget Sempron:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040728/sempron-08.html#opengl

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040728/sempron-08.html#audio

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040728/sempron-09.html

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040728/sempron-13.html

"After a short look at our benchmark results the conclusion is clear: AMD's Sempron is able to outperform Celeron D in most applications. In addition, motherboards based on the nForce2 IGP chipset offer more graphics performance than Intel's 865G platform at a similar and sometimes lower price - even though we're talking about a pathetic level of 3D experience here.

But that is not the reason why value systems are bought. Price is what counts and this is why AMD is making extensive use of its proven technology. In order to grow its business, AMD needs to continually draw maximum value out of its existing products and to transfer that value to its customers. This is what AMD accomplished with the Sempron, by combining existing AthlonXP and Athlon64 features to fulfill a specific market sector demand, which in this case is the value processor market."

GO with the Sempron if you are on a budget.

 

[135791]

E-Mechines scraped the bottem of the bucket lol

 

[technoman2]

Q: whats so bad about emachines?

A: Everything

 

[yellowsnowman]

I would go with the sempron but I can't find any sites with good cheap computers with a sempron cpu!
Can you guys list websites of computer sellers for a low budget buyer like me?

[Edit]-- I would build myself a computer but I have very little experience with that And in some cases thats more expensive than getting a cheap machine.

 

[TRDCorolla1]

I heard the new eMachines are much improved.

 

[Dested]

I own an eMachine, and i have for a year or so now. Same ram, proccessor, and motherboard from when i bought it, only thing i updated was the video card to a 9500, Now, my computer is better than seriously about 80% of the computers i see on the shelf from "Dell" and "HP" and all that shit, and i payed 600$ for it all (Including updated video card). The only thing thats gay about them is u cant get a bigger power supply, because they dont sell bigger than like 300-350, and other ones wont fit. But still, i can run any program i need too (less doom3) and ive never had a problem. Now, tell me eMachines suck.


Btw, specs are

AMD2800
512ram
eMachines mother board i assume
Raedon9500
XP Pro/Gentoo Linux
120harddrive

Again, 600$

 

[Lord Kalthorn]

If you can get a Celeron D go for it; they have been highly recommended on this Forum and a few others. And their general records do outpace Semprons and some XPs.

If you can get an XP though, of course that would be better; but they're not really budgety.

 

[Giancarlo]

I already showed why the Celeron D DOES NOT outpace Semprons. Nice try, LK. Tomshardware doesn't lie about those things considering their Intel bias.