you obviously don't understand english I said "no more replies needed and with regards using force I don't use force at all and if you have disconnected cables from hard drives you would lknow it don't need force to disconnect them .......end of story as regards asus I stand by what I said "CRAP" you even cannot get intouch with support,I have had no problems with gigabyte boards but fancied a change wish I had never bothered and back on my trusty reliable easy to setup gigabyte