I just have to say that, me being a owner of a pentium 4 3.2 ghz, and also, a amd fx53 system, i have a better judgement than most of you here, i have had many different processors in the last 3 years, why are any of you comparing barton to presscott, thats just stupid, even tho my old athlon 3200 cud beat almost all prescott 3.2ghz , and theyre alot cheaper, and in GAMES THEY ARE THE BEST, pentium arent even fun with games, long loading times, but anyway, my 3.2ghz, its nice, i do my multitasking and photoshop editing on it, but if i want to play games, i think i choose the amd anyday, any 64bit amd, destroys literally all pentiums out, and are so much cheaper, all of you are <fiddlesticks> stupid <black person>, all have 5200 graphics, and dell pc's and thats why you think intel are good, YOU GOTTA REALISE, INTEL = GOOD PHOTOSHOP EDDITING ETC ETC AMD = AMAZING GAMEPLAY FASTER MORE RELIABLE, LAST LONGER, ROFL CELERON LMAO, INTEL FANBOY <homosexual>